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EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Policies like this make it glaringly obvious how little our government representatives around the world understand technology. It almost seems malicious, or at the very least anticompetitive. Who has access to such filtering systems already, or the resources to create one? GRPR regulations, while I absolutely realize their necessity, have made it difficult for me to expand my side business into the EU. This would jus…

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thin…

Centralization loses. Publicly available content loses. A global community loses. Individuals are too many, faster and more clever than any one company can ever imagine to outmaneuver, it just means our shared internet culture becomes more localized and hidden.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Another possibility: the EU is serious and wants the content farm to show ads business model to die.

What's you definition of a content farm? This bill essentially targets online online medium you can upload and share content on. This should be reworded to the EU is serious and wants to go back to Web 1.0

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Another possibility: the EU is serious and wants the content farm to show ads business model to die.

There are obviously some serious problems with ad-driven businesses on the net. But they have also done a lot to put technology in the hands of poor people. Any plans to replace them with paid-only services need to figure out some way to make them available to people on very limited incomes.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thin…

> Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content Youtube's filter removed the audio track from a video of mine that was essentially silent to start with. There was certainly no music, TV, movie, etc... in the background.

And how many $ did that cause Disney to lose? The system fails almost entirely siding with the orgs with money and power.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thin…

Centralization loses. Publicly available content loses. A global community loses. Individuals are too many, faster and more clever than any one company can ever imagine to outmaneuver, it just means our shared internet culture becomes more localized and hidden.

I'm fairly sure this will mean more centralization as youtube will be the only one able to comply with the laws and everyone else will be locked out.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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You guys might be interested in my startup. We are going to provide a copyright content registration service as well as a vetting service for 3rd parties to upload user posts which are then scanned against the registered content.

Is anyone doing this already? Content FIlter as a service? Presumably, everyone's going to need it now, and it makes no sense for every social network permitting video/audio uploads to build their own.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Centralization loses. Publicly available content loses. A global community loses. Individuals are too many, faster and more clever than any one company can ever imagine to outmaneuver, it just means our shared internet culture becomes more localized and hidden.

I'm fairly sure this will mean more centralization as youtube will be the only one able to comply with the laws and everyone else will be locked out.

I'm fairly certain YouTube wasn't around when I traded external HDs full of movies/tv shows with my high school friends.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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post #3

Policies like this make it glaringly obvious how little our government representatives around the world understand technology. It almost seems malicious, or at the very least anticompetitive. Who has access to such filtering systems already, or the resources to create one? GRPR regulations, while I absolutely realize their necessity, have made it difficult for me to expand my side business into the EU. This would jus…

I think they do understand exactly what is going on but they know that upload filters are faulty almost always in favor of people with money. Upload filters like ones on youtube are super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content but they also take out a load of legitimate content. Its now up to the content owner to prove that their content was fair use or that its not even the same thin…

> super biased towards taking down anything that looks like copyrighted content

YouTube's uploads filters don't work very well with Peppa Pig episodes that have been chopped up into 45 second pieces and reordered randomly.

Re: EU Copyright: Block Everything, Never Make Mistakes, but Don't Use Upload Filter

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Another possibility: the EU is serious and wants the content farm to show ads business model to die.

Ads have nothing to do with this. It's not aimed at business models that show ads, it's aimed at business models that host user content.

The whole point is to put content exclusivity back in the hands of traditional publishers.

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