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Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

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Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

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I really like this in concept. There's times when I hit a site and I'm just there to do one of maybe three common things, but it's sort of "hidden" in a jumbled site. Granted this is all about data on screen but I would think you could extend it to common actions or such. Maybe you'd also learn that all your users really just use or want a simple view rather than a more complex site?

I've seen a network configuration tool that had a drop down in the application header where you could choose between "Simple", "Advanced" and "Expert"; each presented largely different user interfaces, which were actually quite good. E.g. with "Simple" there simply was a list of Wi-Fi networks and a wizard for creating new ones or changing them with basically three options: SSID, password and whether it's a guest net…

It's a good idea, and has its place. However, you can run into issues where less skilled users will choose the more advanced path because they overestimate their ability.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

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Axios also puts this to great use with a "go deeper" button. It's very helpful for deciding how much of each story to consume. Screenshot: https://i.postimg.cc/SKkKc85H/Screen-Shot-2018-12-10-at-11-5... Site: https://www.axios.com/technology

Thanks, I'll add to the "prior work" section. On one hand, forcing users to click a button to see content is kind-of user-hostile, IMO. It's appropriate for a homepage, though. I don't like it when a homepage shows the full content of each post because it forces me to do a lot of scrolling if I'm not interested in a post. So my first impression is that Axios is doing it well and thoughtfully. But on the other hand, t…

I agree that "show more" is not the right form of interaction for a documentation page. Have you considered measuring engagement in other ways (tracking search results, link clicks, anchor clicks, short "is this page helpful" inline surveys, etc.)?

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

#54

Journalism already has a mechanism for this. In a news story (as opposed to longer, narrative stories), the important news is up top, followed by background in order of importance. The interface thus becomes: stop reading when it stops being new or interesting.

Yes, the inverted pyramid can handle most cases in journalism.

The example that I provide in the post (a tutorial split between 2 audiences) is an example where this UI may be useful. Granted, even that is an edge case. I think there are different, more straightforward strategies for handling split-audience tutorials. This post was just an exploration into a UI that intrigued me.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

#55

From the article: > My initial impression is that the ROI does not justify the effort. > It depends on how strongly users respond to the feature, because it'll create a noticeable amount of work for writers. The author is probably correct about the ROI not justifying the effort, but I think UI design should also be considered as an input for whether users would respond to the feature. The UI as it stands is technical…

erm, commenting on the ROI bit, but in Journalism AFAIK (or at least writing articles and so on) there are concepts of how a title/ sub-heading / article should be written to give the maximum amount of info based on its "part" (if i make myself clear in that a title/sub-heading/article is a part of an article). in that sense, writing with this in mind makes the ROI pretty obvious, since it's being written already in…

Thanks for the input. Any links? I'd like to learn more about these strategies.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

#56

I think this is more robustly solved by just collapsing headings and letting the user expand them if they want. See: Wikipedia on mobile. The issue with the author's approach is that you don't know what information you are gaining/losing by switching between modes, and the onus is on the author to decide what information is available at each tier. What's unnecessary trivia for one reader may not be for another.

This is the big issue that I've heard from quite a few people.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

#58

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Thanks, I'll add to the "prior work" section. On one hand, forcing users to click a button to see content is kind-of user-hostile, IMO. It's appropriate for a homepage, though. I don't like it when a homepage shows the full content of each post because it forces me to do a lot of scrolling if I'm not interested in a post. So my first impression is that Axios is doing it well and thoughtfully. But on the other hand, t…

I agree that "show more" is not the right form of interaction for a documentation page. Have you considered measuring engagement in other ways (tracking search results, link clicks, anchor clicks, short "is this page helpful" inline surveys, etc.)?

I'm doing a big investigation at the moment to find out if "was this page helpful?" meaningfully correlates to quality.

I do track the other interactions you mentioned, but it's difficult to map them to actionable ways to improve quality. And then even if we do make them actionable, it's hard to prove that they have actually improved quality. I'm just starting out a rigorous study of this field, though, and am hopeful that we can make advances.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, I'll add to the "prior work" section.

Mercury Reader (formerly readability) https://mercury.postlight.com/reader/ and Slashdot both belong as prior art. Slashdot has had the ability to change length of comments for a long time.

Thanks. Added.

Re: Show HN: A UI That Lets Readers Control How Much Information They See

#60
When the light/dark slider is all the way to the dark side, the controls themselves become very difficult to see. Also, it's interesting that the point on the slider where the text and background color match is not in the middle — it's significantly to the left. Anyone have an idea of why this is the case?
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