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Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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Re: Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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"The court found Apple violated two of Qualcomm’s software patents around resizing photographs and managing applications on a touch screen." Well, that's not exactly the victory they wanted, but I think Qualcomm will take anything they can get at this point.

It's the same type of patent Apple used against Samsung in US, so it's not like they're an innocent party in this dance.

2 wrongs don't make a right. Although the "swipe to unlock" patent case was ridiculous.

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post #9

Qualcomm got this win because of two patents relate to software. For their inventors, they are probably not working on Qualcomm's core business (licensing and modem), wondering what will happen to them? An email from their superiors saying "well done and thank you", a cash bonus maybe some extra RSU, a promotion or maybe nothing? Anyone has experience on this?

No, they won because they wanted to retaliate against the USA arresting a top Huewei executive.

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IMO: Trade war

Courts in China are not independent, let's be honest. Hurting Apple, the crown jewel, is a warning to USA (even if Qualcomm is US based)

Edit: also see Huawei CFO getting jailed etc etc. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/huawei-cf... China answered....with hundreds of billions in market cap for Apple.

Re: Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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post #9

Qualcomm got this win because of two patents relate to software. For their inventors, they are probably not working on Qualcomm's core business (licensing and modem), wondering what will happen to them? An email from their superiors saying "well done and thank you", a cash bonus maybe some extra RSU, a promotion or maybe nothing? Anyone has experience on this?

No, they won because they wanted to retaliate against the USA arresting a top Huewei executive.

not every single thread on HN has to be politicized. Qualcomm picked these patents months ago, they filed a lawsuit by arguing that these patents are being used by Apple without licensing. This is enough to call these concerned patents "key patents". my post is all about a question I am interested in - what kind of reward a big name high tech company is going to reward you when you are the inventor of such key patents.

Re: Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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IMO: Trade war Courts in China are not independent, let's be honest. Hurting Apple, the crown jewel, is a warning to USA (even if Qualcomm is US based) Edit: also see Huawei CFO getting jailed etc etc. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/huawei-cf... China answered....with hundreds of billions in market cap for Apple.

Definitely can't rule it out as a factor.

Re: Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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I realized that a Chinese court just acknowledged the fact that Qualcomm has a portfolio of patents not relate to modems and still widely used by many very popular phones.

it seems to me that this actually gives Qualcomm extra justification to its policy of determining the licensing fee based on the cost of the whole phone rather than just the modem. sounds like a huge win for Qualcomm.

Re: Qualcomm wins preliminary China import ruling against some iPhone models

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post #13

So in some recent version of ios 12, Apple changed the way they resize photos and manage applications on screen to get around Qualcomm's patents. It would be fascinating to see just what features on which devices are missing due to patents as opposed to the manufacturer not wanting to do it. Sure, most of the time the features can be designed in a non-infringing way, but that takes additional resources that might mak…

That same argument could be levied against all patents more generally, and as a result, I don't think it really helps the anti-software-patent cause. Physical patents have been licensed for this reason (to avoid the r&d of alternative methods) since nearly the advent of patents.
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