South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly • Hacker News Board

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by jordanthoms » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:21 AM UTC

zik wrote: post #20

nyolfen wrote: post #6

when i was a kid, i thought the stuff about freedom in rhetoric about america was silly and nebulous, but as i get older it seems more true. don't get me wrong, i hate the surveillance panopticon, drug war, and permanent security state as much as anyone else, but at least the government doesn't put you in jail for cheating at video games.

From where I live (not in the US) the US doesn't look particularly good as far as civil liberties go. Not that my country (Australia) is great either. We're just messed up in different ways.

At least they don't have an official censorship regime like we have in Australia and NZ. We're still banning books here... primitive.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by api » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:36 AM UTC

yongjik wrote: post #19

Nasrudith wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have heard some complaints about South Korea being a geritocracy - even by the standards of the US. I don't know the fine details but that sounds consistent with some of the other stuff like the porn ban. If they really are being run by a bunch of old men. I don't know nearly enough about the culture or context to know how true or widespread the perception is but it does sound consistent.

Only 70 years ago, South Korea was a dirt-poor agricultural country whose major export items were rice, seaweed, and the likes. Before that it was a Japanese colony, and before that it was a die-hard confucian kingdom that would out-Confucius contemporary China. Old moralities die hard. (Think of how racism persists in the US, 150+ years after the Civil War.) It didn't help that we imported right-wing American Christ…

Was the latter imported in part because it was compatible with older Korean values? Just curious.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:37 AM UTC

nyolfen wrote: post #6

when i was a kid, i thought the stuff about freedom in rhetoric about america was silly and nebulous, but as i get older it seems more true. don't get me wrong, i hate the surveillance panopticon, drug war, and permanent security state as much as anyone else, but at least the government doesn't put you in jail for cheating at video games.

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Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by ryanlol » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:38 AM UTC

AlexCoventry wrote: post #14

nyolfen wrote: post #6

when i was a kid, i thought the stuff about freedom in rhetoric about america was silly and nebulous, but as i get older it seems more true. don't get me wrong, i hate the surveillance panopticon, drug war, and permanent security state as much as anyone else, but at least the government doesn't put you in jail for cheating at video games.

They'll put you in jail for accessing a public url structure in an unintended manner, though, under the CFAA. To me that's a bigger deal.

If you're referring to weev, this is not an accurate description of his case.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by mirimir » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:42 AM UTC

intrarTrode wrote: post #17

mirimir wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I get that. But I am curious about what shows up in their log. I'd love to send "fuck no", but have no clue how one might do that. And I'm guessing that "yes" is the only possible value.

Joke's on you. That widget never gets logged. It's a placebo. More likely, duration of stay, IP and cookies cross-referenced from other sources are the only things they look at. Instead of recording your response as to whether you enjoy getting kneecapped, they just let you scream into a sound-proofed vacuum. But hey, at least you're not bound and gagged.

Hey, thanks.

I did look at the code, but over my head.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by intrarTrode » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:50 AM UTC

mirimir wrote: post #25

intrarTrode wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joke's on you. That widget never gets logged. It's a placebo. More likely, duration of stay, IP and cookies cross-referenced from other sources are the only things they look at. Instead of recording your response as to whether you enjoy getting kneecapped, they just let you scream into a sound-proofed vacuum. But hey, at least you're not bound and gagged.

Hey, thanks. I did look at the code, but over my head.

Vote with your feet. The longer you stay, and the deeper in you click (url to url), the more implicit your assent.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by username3 » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:55 AM UTC

api wrote: post #22

yongjik wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only 70 years ago, South Korea was a dirt-poor agricultural country whose major export items were rice, seaweed, and the likes. Before that it was a Japanese colony, and before that it was a die-hard confucian kingdom that would out-Confucius contemporary China. Old moralities die hard. (Think of how racism persists in the US, 150+ years after the Civil War.) It didn't help that we imported right-wing American Christ…

Was the latter imported in part because it was compatible with older Korean values? Just curious.

Koreans accepted Christianity because they believed it’s right. Japanese are sensitive to social norms and wouldn’t accept Christianity even if they believed it was right to avoid conflict.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-...

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by jmts » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 5:56 AM UTC

Having not done much gaming in the last 5 years or so, and never having been particularly competitive, I'm wondering if someone might be able to give a description of what 'boosting' is, and how it benefits a player? My point of reference is something like having a friend grinding away on Starcraft for you until your profile achieves a certain status in the ladder. Ultimately wouldn't that all be for little if you then play consistently against much better players than you, and lose continually until your profile reaches equilibrium again?

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by mirimir » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 6:00 AM UTC

intrarTrode wrote: post #26

mirimir wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, thanks. I did look at the code, but over my head.

Vote with your feet. The longer you stay, and the deeper in you click (url to url), the more implicit your assent.

Well, only my Mirimir persona uses this VM, with this VPN chain and exit IP. And I have Firefox delete all cookies at exit. So they don't get much from me, no matter what.

Re: South Korean law to punish boosters passes in the National Assembly

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Post by yongjik » Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 6:01 AM UTC

api wrote: post #22

yongjik wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only 70 years ago, South Korea was a dirt-poor agricultural country whose major export items were rice, seaweed, and the likes. Before that it was a Japanese colony, and before that it was a die-hard confucian kingdom that would out-Confucius contemporary China. Old moralities die hard. (Think of how racism persists in the US, 150+ years after the Civil War.) It didn't help that we imported right-wing American Christ…

Was the latter imported in part because it was compatible with older Korean values? Just curious.

When your country is in ruins and barely saved by foreign soldiers fighting and dying, it becomes kinda easy to accept their belief system as your own.

But actually they were quite compatible, come to think about it. Hard working will reward you, be obedient to your elders, your family and your country before you, men decide and women follow, yadda yadda.

Edit: Of course many American soldiers who fought weren't actually right-wing Christian evangelists, but we didn't know it then. Koreans didn't speak good English on 1953: our perception of America (and what it stood for) was warped by whoever was willing to learn Korean... and a lot of them did it to spread the gospel of Jesus, I guess.