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Re: Building a Web-App the Microsoft Way

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Post by ericb » Fri, May 09, 2008, 6:51 PM UTC

baha_man wrote: post #30

ericb wrote: post #22

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Actually, a previous company I worked at does have to move away. They have what they believe was one of the largest VB6 apps anywhere. It had its own embedded VBA as well. Now they have an enforced rewrite, and yes, it didn't mean it stops working that day, but they have licenses for VBA which they pass on to customers which DO expire (as in, they can't keep selling their product!). Now they have to move years of wor…

I guess Wasabi is a pretty good idea after all. May I ask if this company you used to work for has now embraced open source? [1] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/01b.html

Yes. They migrated most of the app to Java and made it web-based. Eclipse plugins and java for extensibility are going to replace the VBA.

Re: Building a Web-App the Microsoft Way

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Post by chaostheory » Sat, May 10, 2008, 1:30 AM UTC

wanorris wrote: post #29

chaostheory wrote: post #28

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imho I still feel LINQ is a knockoff and a really late one (years late). to MS's credit LINQ does bring a lot of improvements; mainly in shorter, more concise syntax

A knockoff of what exactly?

the open source stuff (fine - i'm showing my bias against MS with or without good merit)

I'm not saying that you can't build anything good / successful with MS products... and there are situations where going MS is a strong advantage (video games)...

I'm just curious why ppl would constrain themselves (in both flexibility and financials) when there's alternative tech that's comparable (or better)

Re: Building a Web-App the Microsoft Way

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Post by wanorris » Sat, May 10, 2008, 6:11 PM UTC

chaostheory wrote: post #32

wanorris wrote: post #29

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A knockoff of what exactly?

the open source stuff (fine - i'm showing my bias against MS with or without good merit) I'm not saying that you can't build anything good / successful with MS products... and there are situations where going MS is a strong advantage (video games)... I'm just curious why ppl would constrain themselves (in both flexibility and financials) when there's alternative tech that's comparable (or better)

Which open source stuff -- that's what I mean. I've used ActiveRecord in Rails and a few other open source data access technologies, but nothing I would consider to be a direct precursor to LINQ.

There are a lot of things that Microsoft makes that are derivative of open source -- ASP.NET MVC is effectively yet another Rails knockoff, for example.

But AFAIK, LINQ is something new and different, which is why I'm genuinely curious what you would consider to be similar to LINQ but predating it.