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Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Maybe they can win a battle...China will live to fight another day. Let's be honest: if today is in doubt, a couple of decades ago China had no chance. The trend is on China's side. What will happen two decades from now with China having relatively unlimited money for this cause?

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Maybe they can win a battle...China will live to fight another day. Let's be honest: if today is in doubt, a couple of decades ago China had no chance. The trend is on China's side. What will happen two decades from now with China having relatively unlimited money for this cause?

"Win" in the sense of the article is the same kind of "win" that Finland achieved against the USSR; they surely lost all of their objectives, but it was long, bloody, and expensive from the USSR's point of view.

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example.

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Maybe they can win a battle...China will live to fight another day. Let's be honest: if today is in doubt, a couple of decades ago China had no chance. The trend is on China's side. What will happen two decades from now with China having relatively unlimited money for this cause?

"Win" in the sense of the article is the same kind of "win" that Finland achieved against the USSR; they surely lost all of their objectives, but it was long, bloody, and expensive from the USSR's point of view. Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example.

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example.

China can afford a Finland vs USSR scenario, several times over. China is not going away and the Taiwanese are essentially Han Chinese according to Wikipedia so the Afghan scenario is different. China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Issue with this is that former DPP Chair Tsai Ing-Wen has resigned her position as Chair due to low approval ratings and voting defeats on her home turf. Shes stayed on as president but not likely to be re-elected. Her opposition the KMT if they get re-elected will likely continue on either good relations with China or reunification so there would be less saber-rattling.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/asia/taiwan-president-resigns...

https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/05/26/taiwans-president-...

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2018/09/18/2...

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Win" in the sense of the article is the same kind of "win" that Finland achieved against the USSR; they surely lost all of their objectives, but it was long, bloody, and expensive from the USSR's point of view. Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example.

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example. China can afford a Finland vs USSR scenario, several times over. China is not going away and the Taiwanese are essentially Han Chinese according to Wikipedia so the Afghan scenario is different. China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

Righty-oh: as Han Chinese, the Taiwanese are highly dangerous to the mainland Communist Party's narrative that there is no alternative and that top-down Party heavy-handedness is just being reasonable "with Chinese characteristics". Any Finland-like scenario would demonstrate the effectiveness and societal value of obtaining more democracy to all Han Chinese.

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Win" in the sense of the article is the same kind of "win" that Finland achieved against the USSR; they surely lost all of their objectives, but it was long, bloody, and expensive from the USSR's point of view. Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example.

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example. China can afford a Finland vs USSR scenario, several times over. China is not going away and the Taiwanese are essentially Han Chinese according to Wikipedia so the Afghan scenario is different. China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

The notion that everything is kumbaya among all Han Chinese automatically is a silly government line.

> China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

Wasn't Hong Kong supposed to be independently managed til 2047? The Taiwanese are not blind.

Re: Taiwan Can Win a War with China

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlimited money, or at least the willingness to spend unlimited money, has not really resulted in a sustainable "win" in Afghanistan, for example. China can afford a Finland vs USSR scenario, several times over. China is not going away and the Taiwanese are essentially Han Chinese according to Wikipedia so the Afghan scenario is different. China can offer same government or laws for at least for x decades...

Righty-oh: as Han Chinese, the Taiwanese are highly dangerous to the mainland Communist Party's narrative that there is no alternative and that top-down Party heavy-handedness is just being reasonable "with Chinese characteristics". Any Finland-like scenario would demonstrate the effectiveness and societal value of obtaining more democracy to all Han Chinese.

Or exacerbate the conflict, the deaths from both sides in Taiwan and China could create hate that might just lead to a eight-year-long civil war like the Syrian Civil War with no end in sight.
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