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Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by cobythedog »

LTjoker wrote: post #115

The American diet has always lacked fermented foods. Once I fixed this, everything started working again. Now I have to actively avoid Americans that don't understand this. Some have such strong feelings, adverse to trying new things. I've been on the receiving end of lectures many times about how my food is rabbit food. Or it "Doesn't have enough protine."

There is no "American diet" as far as I have experienced. Once you travel around the country you find vastly different eating habits and diets.

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Post by intralizee »

test6554 wrote: post #124
intralizee wrote: post #119

Free will is an illusion and thus choices don't exist.

If you assume free will is an illusion, then it would make more sense to treat those who threaten society as faulty machinery and scrap them. Assuming people can admit and learn from their mistakes means you can focus on rehabilitation and treat them with dignity.

No, it makes more sense to fix the broken system that resulted in the faulty machinery and to fix the faulty person as well. If one cannot fix the person, it doesn't make sense to scrap them if we put humanity at the highest regard with understanding free will is an illusion. We would just have to prevent the person from being able to do the wrong and understand punishment is against humanity in the equation with handling the person.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by abledon »

elliekelly wrote: post #89
abledon wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also less women are breastfeeding, a process which also gives probiotics

Yes, this is hugely important for a child and our laws in the U.S. do not give families adequate support to allow most women to be able to provide this crucial care for this children.[1] It's difficult for many women working white collar jobs and almost impossible for women who work minimum wage jobs.[2] This systemic problem is going to have long-term public health effects that we have yet to even comprehend. [1] ht…

It’s like we’re crippling our own future workforce and phenotype expression legacy sigh lol

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by intralizee »

krapp wrote: post #128
theprotocol wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm probably gonna get downvotes for appearing to bask in this attention (which I didn't expect). In this case it's based on a heuristic. I can't at all model human will so it seems reasonable to start with it as infinite (since it's so vast and appears virtually limitless, the very reason I can't model it in the first place) and model in the constraints. edit: also, I am a Christian and that probably factors into my…

I suspect there's no definition of free will that isn't at least implicitly religious. It seems to me that what most people want free will to be is supernatural - something like a soul that would exempt their identity from being bound to a purely physical universe.

Jansenism emphasized on predestination and is unique in being contrary to all the religions using free will for an alternative expression. Thought it might be worth mentioning because someone might find it interesting.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by thomasahle »

test6554 wrote: post #124
intralizee wrote: post #119

Free will is an illusion and thus choices don't exist.

If you assume free will is an illusion, then it would make more sense to treat those who threaten society as faulty machinery and scrap them. Assuming people can admit and learn from their mistakes means you can focus on rehabilitation and treat them with dignity.

> If you assume free will is an illusion, then it would make more sense to treat those who threaten society as faulty machinery and scrap them.

If you have a system that produces defects, you could continuously scrap them, but you could also just fix the system so it doesn't produce defects.

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Post by rootusrootus »

salamanderman wrote: post #5

I'm not too keen on the discouragement against self experimentation at the end of the article in this case. Self experimentation has greatly improved insulin pump technology in the past few years, and this situation has much much less risk.

I work with a type 1 diabetic who programs his own insulin pump now. Still goes to the doctor, but says they just don't have the same commitment to finding a good solution that he does, and he feels much better now. Sample size of 1, obviously, but he says it's pretty common to find other people in his situation who have similar results.

Re: Gut bacteria may offer a treatment for autism

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Post by rootusrootus »

LTjoker wrote: post #115

The American diet has always lacked fermented foods. Once I fixed this, everything started working again. Now I have to actively avoid Americans that don't understand this. Some have such strong feelings, adverse to trying new things. I've been on the receiving end of lectures many times about how my food is rabbit food. Or it "Doesn't have enough protine."

I thought yogurt was quite popular? Even sauerkraut isn't really uncommon in America. But I struggle to even think what would constitute an "American Diet" unless you're using that to refer to someone who just eats hot dogs and hamburgers.

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Post by gboudrias »

vahji wrote: post #118
gboudrias wrote: post #44

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Interestingly, almost no one in NA justice systems talks about evil. The causality between life events leading to crime is often ridiculously clear, and choice barely factors into it. Believing in evil is its own kind of privilege. I for one have now seen a lot of criminal cases, and I've only seen sick people and people following the path laid before them. No evil in sight, but the concept's very existence allows fo…

Believing in evil is the privilege exerted by those who've lived a life of righteousness or, at least, have tried their best.

I happen to have tried my best at that so far and I think this line of thinking is mostly an excuse not to develop empathy and show compassion.
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