Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018 • Hacker News Board

Re: Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018

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Post by mrmanner » Fri, Dec 07, 2018, 10:03 AM UTC

flukus wrote: post #123

freeone3000 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually this would be accomplished by farmers passing on higher food prices on to the supermarkets and the consumer.

Unfortunately this doesn't work in a globalized race to the bottom. People can go buy a cheaper item that was shipped around the world 3 times before landing on supermarket shelves.

> People can go buy a cheaper item that was shipped around the world 3 times before landing on supermarket shelves.

This is a very good argument for higher carbon taxes -- they would make the shipped item more expensive.

And if transported goods are much cheaper than locally produced even after paying a transportation cost including taxes, then maybe it's time for some producers to try something else. Or to convince the government that there's a value in producing food in that specific area and get more subsidies.

Re: Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018

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Post by pokemongoaway » Fri, Dec 07, 2018, 7:06 PM UTC

fromthestart wrote: post #29

If you want proof as to how taboo climate science skepticism has become, look at how quickly (less than ten minutes) my sourced, rational comment in this thread was down voted and flagged. Flagged! For skepticism!

Yep, HN censorship is rampant. We're not even allowed to supported our censored brothers anymore when they get killed. I have lots of emails from various censored HN users trying to fight back against bang unsuccessfully. They are unwilling to listen to reason and basically lie that the comments break the rules.

Re: Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018

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Post by iso1337 » Fri, Dec 07, 2018, 10:34 PM UTC

mberning wrote: post #168

iso1337 wrote: post #82

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Per-capita emissions are the highest in the US, Canada, and Australia [1]. The US is also the second-largest emitter of CO2. There is much to be gained by focusing on emissions in the US. Unfortunately, most USians would like a large house with yard, 2+ large cars, etc. Also think about cultural projections -- Hollywood often depicts wealthy people shuttling around in large, inefficient SUVs. These images and aspirat…

Per capita is a BS way to look at it. If US emissions are growing at 0.5% per year then there is nothing to do. It will take 140 years to double and the natural progression of technology will easily solve the problem. Solar and other renewable technologies are advancing so fast that economic factors will take over and there will be much less need for fossil fuels very shortly. On the other hand if a country with a la…

What is the lifestyle of the average person? It’s certainly not that of a USian

The average salary worldwide is 10k USD.

I agree that many people would like to live in some sort of idyllic rural or suburban setting. Indeed, that is what I prefer myself.

However, with 7 billion of us in this planet, we may have to rethink what is feasible.

Re: Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018

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Post by selimthegrim » Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 3:04 PM UTC

hwillis wrote: post #32

The article offhand mentions that we're on track for RCP 8.5, or 8.5 W/m^2 additional heat in 2100. That should fucking terrify you. That's 4 C global temperature rise, a .75 meter sea level rise, and a doubling of ocean acidity. Page 82 of the IPCC report[1] has some fast facts- at RCP 8.5 most of the wild animals on earth will start dying out from lack of freshwater. Corals and molluscs will die out, and all ocean…

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/climate-change-reversi...

Re: Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rise Like a ‘Speeding Freight Train’ in 2018

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Post by systematical » Tue, Dec 18, 2018, 5:59 PM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #167

systematical wrote: post #145

The solution is to dump money into R&D and figure out how to "scoop" the C02 out of the air and then break it apart into carbon and oxygen. A series of solar powered drones could hopefully do this. This may sound far fetched, but I think global political action before its too late is even more far fetched. Send the money into DARPA and call it increased defense spending to appease the elephants.

We know these methods. They're not high-tech. Swamps, wetlands, tropical rainforests. The same landforms which are most under assault by human activity. http://www.esassoc.com/projects/wetlands-carbon-sequestratio... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=carbon%20sequestration%... https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2002... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C39&q=car... https://www…

The hurdle isn't clean renewable or CO2 sinks, its Republicans. They don't want to vote on latte lefty soy-boy stuff like this. Which leads me back to my previous comment. Call it defense spending and scoop it out of the air.