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Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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And it didn't work. Some people were aware of this. A few took the time to read/discuss/think about it. A minuscule fraction of passionate people acted on it.

And the rest of the world took the path of least resistance, as usual.

People don't shape society willingly. They mostly let life happen to them. Even when you see them protesting, it's the consequence of an emotional reaction and a group effect, not the reflect of their deep personnal vision of life. They have none.

It's why people keep gaining weight, comming back to a violent spouse or voting again for the politicians that just lied in their face.

I have no idea what to do about that. Education works a bit, but it's so slow and easy to destroy. And meanwhile, it's very unfair for the minority trying hard to make things better. They pay a high price, with no thanks, and little benefits except the hope the others won't screw up things more.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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How will avid Apple users on this website choose Firefox as a browser on their iPhones and iPad computers?

EDIT: To clarify, mean the rendering engine (so we keep the ecosystem diversity), not the reskinned Safari. Reskinning Safari with Firefox branding does nothing for WebKit web monoculture.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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post #3

How will avid Apple users on this website choose Firefox as a browser on their iPhones and iPad computers? EDIT: To clarify, mean the rendering engine (so we keep the ecosystem diversity), not the reskinned Safari. Reskinning Safari with Firefox branding does nothing for WebKit web monoculture.

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/firefox-web-browser/id989804...

(but yes, I know it's still using webkit behind the scenes)

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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post #3

How will avid Apple users on this website choose Firefox as a browser on their iPhones and iPad computers? EDIT: To clarify, mean the rendering engine (so we keep the ecosystem diversity), not the reskinned Safari. Reskinning Safari with Firefox branding does nothing for WebKit web monoculture.

They can use Firefox, just not the rendering engine. I expect that would still be considered an adequate move. Nobody I know (bias) has an iOS device and no laptop or PC, so they can also adopt it on their PC.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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post #3

How will avid Apple users on this website choose Firefox as a browser on their iPhones and iPad computers? EDIT: To clarify, mean the rendering engine (so we keep the ecosystem diversity), not the reskinned Safari. Reskinning Safari with Firefox branding does nothing for WebKit web monoculture.

They can run a WASM-compiled version of it.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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post #3

How will avid Apple users on this website choose Firefox as a browser on their iPhones and iPad computers? EDIT: To clarify, mean the rendering engine (so we keep the ecosystem diversity), not the reskinned Safari. Reskinning Safari with Firefox branding does nothing for WebKit web monoculture.

We can, just not the Firefox rendering engine. As frustrating as that is, perhaps if more iOS users picked firefox as their "browser" then maybe Apple would take a hint and open up allowing other rendering engines. Although I'm not holding my breath.

I'm an Apple user in as far as I have an iPad Pro and a Macbook Pro, I certainly don't hold Apple in as high regard as I used to do but those two products are superb even with the limitations of the iPad/iOS.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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Just so we can avoid rehashing the discussion whenever a post encouraging the use of Firefox is posted.

- Yes, Mozilla is still the better browser when it comes to privacy.

- Yes, Mozilla has made missteps with Pocket and Mr. Robot.

- Yes, it is slow/resource heavy on certain Macs with non-default resolutions. Yes, Mozilla is working on a fix.

- Yes, it has become really fast for most users after Quantum improvements landed, and likely will continue to get better.

- No, you can't just "fork Chromium" if you don't like the way Google is running the project. Web developers will still make their website work well with whatever Google releases, regardless of standards.

- Yes, Firefox doesn't feel native on your platform of choice.

- Yes, neither does Chrome (doesn't support dark mode on macOS)

- Yes, Chrome has better security against malware.

- Yes, Firefox removed the feature that was essential to your workflow, even though most users don't care.

edit, thought of one more

- No, the argument "Chrome will be the new IE if you don't use Firefox" doesn't matter to most users.

Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)

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And it didn't work. Some people were aware of this. A few took the time to read/discuss/think about it. A minuscule fraction of passionate people acted on it. And the rest of the world took the path of least resistance, as usual. People don't shape society willingly. They mostly let life happen to them. Even when you see them protesting, it's the consequence of an emotional reaction and a group effect, not the reflec…

Be the change you want and keep talking about it. I've stuck to Firefox through ups and downs ever since I found out about it back during version 1 point something.

Internet Explorer proved that behemoths can and will fall, given enough time to shoot themselves in the foot. Firefox just needs to retain its 10% somehow.

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