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Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by hristov »

Revisor wrote: post #89
AgentConundrum wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't, actually. I've got comparable karma (221) after about two years, and I can't even consistently downvote items. I noticed down arrows a while ago for comments, but recently I've noticed that they only appear on certain comments, and others are upvote only. My assumption has been that there is some sort of inflation at play. Not that I'm complaining of course. I think I've only used my downvote powers once…

You cannot downvote comments older than 24 hours. Submissions can't be downvoted at all.

Also I believe you cannot down-vote comments you reply to or that reply to you or something of the sort. That is to avoid flame wars.

I think the grandparent (xatax) is being far too timid, I am sure 221 karma is enough to do anything on here that any other non-moderator is allowed to do.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by AlexC04 »

Sounds fair.

I'm glad my recent 'weekend project' got through. I've implemented the majority of the feedback I've gotten and like my site a lot more now. What's more is my "I made $1" multiplied to the point where it paid for the domain and a month of hosting & a little bit more.

There's still a few weeks work before I could call my redesign 'finished' but I'm really looking forward to the point where I can post another follow up and show off all the value HN has given me. Quality advice is really just invaluable.

RMS (weekend project) posts are what gave me the inspiration to do them myself.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by jjclarkson »

I don't have a startup but dreams of doing it dance in my head. After reading this and realizing that I could miss out on the benefits of the hn community when the time comes because I've just lurked for the past 700 days, I'm logging in now to get more involved. Not sure if that's the result @pg would like to see, but that's how this policy strikes me. Hopefully others like me can figure out when to lurk and when to speak.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by scottnyc »

andre3k1 wrote: post #21
jakestein wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no first hand knowledge, but I would be surprised if a 2.5 year old account with 250 of karma (like you do) is not considered established enough for this purpose.

What about a 2.5 year old account with no karma? You'd be surprised at how many lurkers there are. I know quite a few (and was one myself up until a short while ago). EDIT: added emphasis

I as well. I've been 'lurking' on hacker news for almost two years. It doesn't mean I don't want to participate, it's just that whenever I do have something to say it's typically been addressed already by another user (the topics I'd probably post on are the hot-topics that draw more eyes.) And I'd rather not add redundancy to comments. To me the natural game mechanics that arise from 'gunning for karma' by being first to post (relevantly) takes a lot of effort.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by petercooper »

Block any submissions from accounts with under 10 (or similar) karma. A tiny amount to earn through comments but enough for nearly all spammers not to bother. There are enough users on HN submitting things now without pandering to those who can't even post a few insightful comments.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by scottnyc »

joebo wrote: post #57
danvoell wrote: post #40

Perhaps in addition to the user's credentials you could analyze the url they are submitting. Has it been submitted before?

crazy idea: maybe also check to see when the domain was registered? more than a year old doesn't sound like a 'startup'. it could be another metric in the decision engine. in fact.... i sense a new startup/weekend project. 'spam link analyzer service' which incorporates user defined metrics (e.g. HN metrics)

If this was implemented, I'd imagine the quality of names for RMS candidates would drop off a cliff!

I've got to imagine that everyone who reads these forums has at least 2-3 domains that they've owned for a while for future projects.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by boredguy8 »

vessenes wrote: post #39
_b8r0 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but it's important that what qualifies as investment matters. Perhaps a function of comments, votes, submissions and time the account has been around. As an aside, how would we distinguish between RMS posts and regular posts? Would the spammers simply revert to normal posts? I think if this is the case then perhaps we should reconsider the goal. If the goal is to stop spam masquerading as RMS, then it seems…

I'm reminded of the first time I saw PG speak, it was on bayespam at MIT -- he noted that if SPAM can come up with interesting and engaging email, he'll happily read it. I imagine that as soon as someone is posting interesting content, RMS or not, PG and others won't think of them as 'spammers' anymore, rather contributors.

"Mission fucking accomplished"

http://xkcd.com/810/

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by philwelch »

mvalle wrote: post #84
vessenes wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reminded of the first time I saw PG speak, it was on bayespam at MIT -- he noted that if SPAM can come up with interesting and engaging email, he'll happily read it. I imagine that as soon as someone is posting interesting content, RMS or not, PG and others won't think of them as 'spammers' anymore, rather contributors.

If SPAM is interesting and engaging, is is SPAM?

If someone sent me 500 interesting and engaging emails every day, I wouldn't have any time to get real work done.

Re: "Rate My Startup" Post Policy

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Post by boredguy8 »

scottnyc wrote: post #94
andre3k1 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about a 2.5 year old account with no karma? You'd be surprised at how many lurkers there are. I know quite a few (and was one myself up until a short while ago). EDIT: added emphasis

I as well. I've been 'lurking' on hacker news for almost two years. It doesn't mean I don't want to participate, it's just that whenever I do have something to say it's typically been addressed already by another user (the topics I'd probably post on are the hot-topics that draw more eyes.) And I'd rather not add redundancy to comments. To me the natural game mechanics that arise from 'gunning for karma' by being fir…

I started posting less when the karma ratio became a big deal. But you can still pick up a point or two here and there by making encouraging comments to people far down a thread. This does add value to the community, but it's not a big shot-in-the-arm like a popular submission or a relevant "first post". They do, however, add up.
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