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Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

Maybe you can make sure to discuss this with your doctor until you feel comfortable?

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

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Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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> "The damage that opioid distribution has done to our community and to the United States as a whole has been devastating" said U.S. Attorney Schneider I guess scapegoat big pharma is successfully finding their own scapegoats! The feds could straightforwardly address the fentanyl problem by deillegalizing opiods, allowing reputable distribution to take over. And then society could maturely deal with addiction as a pe…

It's crazy that cannabis is a schedule 1 drug. It's by far the safe way to manage chronic pain but federally illegal. I'm glad the states have the chutzpah to make it legal. The older I get the more I see how this country is run on money above everything else.

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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post #10

Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

Use them only when you need them. I was really annoyed when my wife’s doctor freely prescribed her oxi after her delivery even though my wife never asked for it and never showed any sign of needing it. Having free flowing prescriptions is how we end up with so many addicts.

I second this. I did this for my surgeries. If I took meds at all, I took them only early when likely pain was highest on in minimal, prescribed dose. Then as little as I could from that moment forward just enduring the discomfort, being careful about how I moved, etc. I got over it. Sometimes, the pain was low enough for OTC drugs should I have wanted to use them.

Good way to avoid getting addicted.

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

Have you asked about other options? Alternating acetaminophen & ibuprofen has been popular among the docs I've seen recently. Heck, around here many get a bottle of 800mg ibuprofen after a C-section, no opiods.

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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post #10

Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

Use them only when you need them. I was really annoyed when my wife’s doctor freely prescribed her oxi after her delivery even though my wife never asked for it and never showed any sign of needing it. Having free flowing prescriptions is how we end up with so many addicts.

and then... for legitimate cases... no dice.

about 7 years ago my wife got sand in her eye - was problematic enough that we went to a local clinic. she wasn't going to go blind, but it was irritated enough that after flushing it out, it still looked... bad. and she indicated it was a bit sore, that she wanted to get home to just try to get to sleep.

The doctor there offered a prescription for percocet. We said "no, no need - we'll call if there's a problem". They handed us a prescription for... either 7 or 14 pills. we took it and didn't use it.

A few years later I ended up with extreme lower back pain. I could hardly move - was bed/chair-bound for 4 days. Had called around to see if any clinic would see me to prescribe some pain killer. NOPE. Don't want to create any addicts. Clinics all have signs on them saying 'no prescriptions for...' then a list of 4-5 things.

We were basically force-fed a prescription for something way out of line with what was necessary, then when something was necessary... not available.

Yep, just my anecdote, but it's stuck with me, mostly because I don't have that many medical interactions in the first place, so the outliers tend to stick out.

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Use them only when you need them. I was really annoyed when my wife’s doctor freely prescribed her oxi after her delivery even though my wife never asked for it and never showed any sign of needing it. Having free flowing prescriptions is how we end up with so many addicts.

I second this. I did this for my surgeries. If I took meds at all, I took them only early when likely pain was highest on in minimal, prescribed dose. Then as little as I could from that moment forward just enduring the discomfort, being careful about how I moved, etc. I got over it. Sometimes, the pain was low enough for OTC drugs should I have wanted to use them. Good way to avoid getting addicted.

I third this. Vicodiene when you need it is a lifesaver after surgery, but it can tempting to continue with it beyond when you need it. Just beware and stop.

Re: Six Detroit area doctors indicted in $500M health care fraud

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Ugh. I’m going on for surgery next Thursday, for a laparoscopic partial colon resection, and one of the things I’m most worried about will be post-surgery pain killers. Hearing stories about excessive pain killer use and prescription really make me want to avoid them, but on the other hand I’ll need to be up & moving around ASAP to speed my recovery, and pain would get in the way of that.

If you've done other drugs before and you're currently ok, then you should be fine. If you've never done drugs before, then just remember that you're taking these drugs for a reason, and once that reason is gone, then you don't need the drugs anymore.

Recreational drug use can be fun but I don't think that's your prerogative here.

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