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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by xeroaura »

therealjumbo wrote: post #253
Someone1234 wrote: post #76

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The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

So at work we have a jenkins instance, which uses github (on prem) OAuth to sign in, and it logs you out after a very short period of inactivity. Except that jenkins or the way we have it configured or the way we have the reverse proxy in front of it configured is buggy, so sometimes when you try to log back in, you are just redirected to the front page, and you're still not logged in. To workaround this, I had to cl…

Would clearing cookies and cache work?

On Chrome, theres an option to list cookies for a site by clicking on that padlock to left of site url, so quicker way of clearing cookies for your Jenkins site. Maybe FF has similar setup.

Then hard refresh browser should clear cache I think (ctr/cmd + shift + r on any system or ctr + f5 on windows).

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by Twirrim »

BoumTAC wrote: post #217

Honestly I want to move to firefox but there is still so many things wrong. It's a lot better but after trying to migrate for 30min I already find 2 basic missing features from chrome. The first one is the tab research feature. It available for many years in chrome I don't understand why it's still missing in firefox. I can't type "yo [hit tab] my video" to find a video on youtube. And the second feature missing is t…

For the first thing, you're talking about "keyword search" (as ever, knowing the right term to use when you're searching makes all the difference, and good luck if you don't know the right term)

It's present in Firefox and has been for several years now. I use it extensively both with internal and external sites, e.g. I type "people joe blogs" in to my browser and it opens up our internal phone directory and searches for the person.

It's super simple to set up:

Go to the desired site. Right click on the search field, and choose "Add a Keyword for this search". Pick a name for the bookmark, and then pick a keyword to go with it.

That's it, job done :)

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by Someone1234 »

tptacek wrote: post #128
Someone1234 wrote: post #76

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The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

This has been a first-class Chrome feature for years, for whatever it's worth.

That isn't the case.

Chrome supports multiple profiles. Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs isn't multiple profits. It is multiple isolated containers running under the same profile, in the same browser window.

A closer analogy would be if Chrome allowed each tab to have its own profile, rather than each window, and for each one to be lighter weight than a full profile.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by SEJeff »

Kind of surprised that Microsoft is doing this. The Trident rendering engine is actually really good, and does a better job with the ACID 2 test than Chrome does today.

While I agree with the overall content of this post, it seems dire to the point of hyperbole. Chromium is OSS, and Microsoft has both the incentive and engineering to fork it should Google not ultimately work together with them on it. It is somewhat ironic how Mozilla was basically founded due to Microsoft's monopoly on the browser market and when they (Mozilla) succeeded in breaking that monopoly, they give rise to a new competitor (Chrome / Chromium), which mostly does them in (Do them in being defined as steals most of their userbase).

I only really care that the web stays relatively open and vendor neutral, something Mozilla overall has been a real champion of. Microsoft using an open source standards compliant rendering engine is sort of a step in the right direction from where we were 10 years ago even if that rendering engine is primarily maintained by Google.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by balladeer »

npunt wrote: post #235
adontz wrote: post #116

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Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.

To be honest, I actually really like that they added Pocket, and I don't think it takes anything away from FF.

It took away credibility. A lot of it. It also alienated too many “almost evangelist” users (like me) who had converted countless users from other browsers in high school and college. Many of them haven’t been able to reconcile with what might seem a tiny change now. Also the jarring and bizarre way Mozilla pretty much stonewalled everyone on it who wanted it to be discussed.

I don’t know it would make sense to you, or most, but it felt like a breach of trust and seeing it is still baked into the browser itself (yes, they bought it; yes, you can turn it “off”) and that you can’t “completely remove” it, I don’t “that part” has changed. Besides the separate standalone add-on was a lot more useful and I was a full time user until that debacle when I moved to Safari (and Pinboard).

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by Someone1234 »

asavadatti wrote: post #138
Someone1234 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

Chrome has this too. I doubt its effectiveness as there are ways to fingerprint your browser without using cookies/sessions

Chrome doesn't have this. You cannot run tabs in different contexts in Chrome side by side.

Both additional profiles and incognito browsing open a different window, with its own settings.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by chrisseaton »

tarruda wrote: post #247
chrisseaton wrote: post #236

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I don’t get it - why do you need to disable the tabs? I’d you don’t want any tabs, then just don’t open any.

I still want to open multiple websites in the same browser session, I just don't want them all to live in the same OS-level window so I can use my window manager and scripts to reorganize and quickly switch between them

Right, so don’t open pages in new tabs, open them in new windows instead? Literally don’t don’t click ‘open in new tab’ and you won’t get a new tab. Click ‘open in new window’ instead.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by SEJeff »

berbec wrote: post #146
tptacek wrote: post #125

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Does it prioritize privacy? I haven't used Firefox in a long time, so my impressions of it are based on news stories, like them launching a partnership with sketchy VPN services or building in "easter egg" advertisements for television shows.

I'm not a customer so I dont have skin in the game, but is ProtonVPN really considered sketchy? [1] 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18608041

No. There was some FUD which was spread that was eventually outed to be written by PIA, one of their competitors. The entire thing mostly just elicits an eyeroll.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by balladeer »

m-p-3 wrote: post #203
adontz wrote: post #116

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Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.

I have a Kobo eReader with Pocket integration and I actually use it quite often.

Well, on that tune I am sure there are users who’d love Fb and Tw integrations; and deep ones at that.
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