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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by npunt »

Someone1234 wrote: post #76
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

Containers are such a great idea.

My one wish is if you could set a default container. I use FF to browser Facebook primarily and want that to be default, but instead I have to load Firefox then load a container then load Facebook. Wish it were just open FF -> Facebook is homepage.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by protomyth »

scrollaway wrote: post #83
dman wrote: post #65

Firefox lost me with the whole XUL fiasco. Breaking peoples workflows before they had a credible alternative lined up was highly unprofessional. I was an enthusiastic Firefox user until the XUL retirement.

Dropping XUL was necessary and if anything, should have been done earlier. I disagree they didn't "have a credible alternative lined up". Are you upset over extensions breaking? There was a long , extremely long deprecation period and afaik Mozilla helped addon authors move over. They had to make the cut at some point, tbh.

Are you upset over extensions breaking? There was a long, extremely long deprecation period and afaik Mozilla helped addon authors move over.

Which didn't include 100% replacement APIs. A long period doesn't help if the new thing doesn't actually replace the old thing.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by function_seven »

Klonoar wrote: post #208
function_seven wrote: post #88

I use Firefox exclusively and am not happy with how the browser market is shaping up. For all of you that have a "last 10%" problem with Firefox (i.e. "I'd use Firefox if only it had X or Y feature"), please consider if that's worth contributing to the monoculture of rendering engines, and worth extending Google's monopoly on Internet standards.

I mean, it kind of is? You have to understand that there's making a stand on what's right, and then choosing to focus on the rest of your life... which, in this case, means not being annoyed by a browser that isn't keeping up. Firefox is great, many of us have loved it since Firefox 2 (or even before!) but you don't get significant increases in users by being the "more greater good" option. You get them by keeping up…

I think Safari is another good choice. It's not Chromium or Blink-based, and so represents more diversity.

I get what you're saying, and I don't mean to be sanctimonious. But there are lots of aspects in life where I trade annoyance for doing what I think is right in the larger scheme of things. I recycle aluminum cans even when it would be easier to chuck them in the nearest bin. I used to toss cigarette butts out the window instead of having them stink up the car's ashtray.

Yeah, my examples might seem a bit dramatic compared to one's choice of browser. Look at them as analogies and not comparable badness.

For me, it's worth whatever edge cases annoy me to know that I'm not working for Google for free. Their incentives don't align with mine. For the most part, Mozilla's do.

If Mozilla falls, then we're right back to where we were in 2001. A single company dictating the standards of the web. That horrifies me.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by quickthrower2 »

crazygringo wrote: post #192
quickthrower2 wrote: post #159

I now use FF at home for one simple reason. Two people at home using two different Google accounts and need to switch between them. In Chrome it decides one of those is the 'logged in account' and the name shows in the browser bar. It is then the default every time you open say a new GMail etc. That is so annoying. This doesn't seem to happen in Firefox!

That's what the "People" menu is for in Chrome. If you have multiple people at home, then they can get their own bookmarks, search histories, etc.

Yeah I'm crap with new features like that being forced on me. I don't really have the time to read up on it, what it is doing behind the scenes etc, if I can trust it.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by npunt »

adontz wrote: post #116
tomphoolery wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is a way better experience than Chrome these days. Google, you constantly add new features that nobody wants, and furthermore, make it WAY more difficult for those of us who care about privacy to turn your tracking BS off. Google Chrome can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.

Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.

To be honest, I actually really like that they added Pocket, and I don't think it takes anything away from FF.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by chrisseaton »

tarruda wrote: post #221

One feature I miss in mainstream browsers like Chrome is the ability to completely disable tabs, leaving the window manager in control of browser windows. This is very valuable for advanced users of tiling WM that seek to automate as much of their workflow as possible. I've tried a couple of extensions that "pull" tabs out of the parent window, but it never worked perfectly. If Firefox had native support for this (ap…

I don’t get it - why do you need to disable the tabs? I’d you don’t want any tabs, then just don’t open any.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by sxp62000 »

The first time I switched from IE to Firefox, and then later from Firefox to Chrome, were all because of speed. The latest Firefox releases do feel faster than Chrome, but it's not a huge difference. Security is important but I don't know if it's a "visible" enough feature to get people to switch to Firefox.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by cbrewster »

BoumTAC wrote: post #217

Honestly I want to move to firefox but there is still so many things wrong. It's a lot better but after trying to migrate for 30min I already find 2 basic missing features from chrome. The first one is the tab research feature. It available for many years in chrome I don't understand why it's still missing in firefox. I can't type "yo [hit tab] my video" to find a video on youtube. And the second feature missing is t…

If you use DDG as your primary search engine, you can use ! commands to redirect to search on other sites (like YouTube !yt, Wikipedia !w, etc...). Using your example, you could just do "!yt my video"

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by WeAreGoingIn »

Someone1234 wrote: post #76
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

The best thing about FF is about:config. It tunes in to the legacy of Netscape and Amiga where you could and can configure everything to how you like it. This is freedom, unlike chromium.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by ghostly_s »

fooey wrote: post #92
djmashko2 wrote: post #52

If I'm using Safari as my default browser, does it make sense to switch to Firefox just to support them? Interesting that Safari is not coming up in any of these articles as a third competitor, but maybe the fact that it's limited to Mac means it has very small market share.

Safari is awful on the scale of being a 2nd tier browser like IE. It's the browser people use because they don't know any better, or because they don't have any choice. Safari isn't a competitor with Chrome, Firefox, or Edge

Of course it's a competitor, I expect it's comfortably the dominant player on the Mac platform. And I find Apple to be the most aggressive of the minor players about addressing rendering issues on major sites.
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