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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#61

Post by rehemiau »

davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

Many people won't switch because either Firefox is slow on their platform (MacOS) or stuff they use are slow on Firefox (Google ecosystem, many other webapps optimized for Chrome)

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by acjohnson55 »

kevmo wrote: post #59
babuskov wrote: post #8

If anyone told me a decade ago that a day will come when I will feel sorry for Microsoft browser technology going away...

It's too bad Microsoft didn't get broken up in the 90s. We'd probably have more browser options.

It's too bad Google isn't being broken up now.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#63

Post by bunderbunder »

kanon wrote: post #39
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

What about Chromium?

The whole subtext here, as described in TFA, is that the near-complete dominance of Google's browser engine is worrying.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by kanon »

firethief wrote: post #56
kanon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Chromium?

Using Google's browser engine still gives them a lot of control, even if you aren't using their trimmings.

True that. I wish they removed all Google stuff from Chromium and only use it in Chrome. Seems like the only fair thing to do imo.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#65

Post by dman »

Firefox lost me with the whole XUL fiasco. Breaking peoples workflows before they had a credible alternative lined up was highly unprofessional. I was an enthusiastic Firefox user until the XUL retirement.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#66

Post by irrational »

rehemiau wrote: post #61
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

Many people won't switch because either Firefox is slow on their platform (MacOS) or stuff they use are slow on Firefox (Google ecosystem, many other webapps optimized for Chrome)

I use Firefox on MacOS. It is easily as fast as Chrome for me (and I have tons of tabs open in multiple windows). And I use Google Docs/Sheets/etc. all day long with zero slowdowns.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#67

Post by omnimus »

trevyn wrote: post #35
mtrpcic wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the benefits, _today_, to use Chrome?

It’s a known quantity — it’s what I’m currently using, and it works.

Well lets not act like Firefox is not known. Its been pioneering browser for years and it's in no way inferior to chrome. It's also indepedent and you dont have to send all your data to google when you use it.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by MrHorsetoast »

davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

What about developer tools? As a front-end dev I'm very pleased with the tools Chrome offers. I only tried Firefox's dev tools briefly but can they compare?

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

#69

Post by mrschwabe »

bithavoc wrote: post #40

With Edge using Chromium, is data still going to Google like this blog posts says? Chromium is the open source version minus the proprietary services and codecs[0]. What am I missing? [0] https://www.howtogeek.com/202825/what’s-the-difference-betwe...

Not exactly a direct answer, because it is unclear to what degree MS will fork/adapt Chromium for their own, but there is a project called Ungoogled-Chromium which I recommend that does exactly the name implies - evidently there is a need for this because there are a number of services and data exchanges with Google servers in stock Chromium.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by RandallBrown »

djmashko2 wrote: post #52

If I'm using Safari as my default browser, does it make sense to switch to Firefox just to support them? Interesting that Safari is not coming up in any of these articles as a third competitor, but maybe the fact that it's limited to Mac means it has very small market share.

The Mac is a relatively small market share of the web, but the iPhone isn't and still uses Webkit as its rendering engine.
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