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Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

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Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#11
What I find a bit curious is that's a fully Chromium based browser, it's not simply based on the Blink rendering engine. So, it will be much closer (probably) to Chromium/Chrome than other blink-based browsers like Brave or Opera.

I'd really like to understand the rationale behind this choice. What they'd like to leverage from Chromium that Blink alone wouldn't have?

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#13
If Microsoft knew that Edge in its current state is inferior, why did they try so hard to make every windows user switch to it? I mean there was this "startup growth hacking" kind of craziness from a corporation and sudden admittance of defeat... It's very confusing.

Edit: We all know why they want everyone to switch don't we, but think about all the now admittedly false marketing! It's not like they stopped the aggressive marketing for a few years and now saying that they can no longer keep up. They probably are doing it now still and implying that Edge is better. Is the marketing really so uninformed about such big decisions?

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#14

This is HUGE! Microsoft throwing away the IE engine in favor of one more or less standard rendering engine is a huge win for web developers everywhere! It's also something that would have been unimaginable in the Steve Ballmer era. Thank you!

> A huge win for web developers everywhere!

And a huge loss for users everywhere. Now that Chrome is becoming the main web target, Google (an adtech company) basically controls the internet.

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#15

This is HUGE! Microsoft throwing away the IE engine in favor of one more or less standard rendering engine is a huge win for web developers everywhere! It's also something that would have been unimaginable in the Steve Ballmer era. Thank you!

One step closer to Googlification of the Web.

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#17
post #8

EdgeHTML is also used for embedding HTML into UWP, and controls have been released for WPF and Win32. I wonder what will be the story of that. Will that be transparently changed to Chrome, can it be changed to Chrome or will EdgeHTML be used only for that?

On that note- what is the engine used by outlook, word et al.? I seem to recall outlook used something different from trident back when ie was the main browser.

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#18
post #2

In short. Edge engine is dead. Based on Chromium. Not an UWP. Will be on Windows 7 and Mac.

This is hilarious to me. When Edge was just a rumor and before Windows 10 was released, I said here that I hope Microsoft will not repeat the mistake of tying this new modern browser to Windows 10 like it has done in the past with Internet Explorer and prior Windows versions.

Microsoft, in its short-sighted way, thought that tying the browser to Windows would be an "advantage," because of things like "better integration with the OS" and throwing the Edge updates in there with the Windows updates, without needing a different update channel.

However, this was short-sighted was because of the following reasons:

- Edge development would remain very sluggish compared to the development of Chrome and Firefox, as new major features would have to wait until Windows itself gets new major features (which happens every 6 months, rather than 6 weeks).

- It would mean Edge would not be cross-platform, a huge strategic mistake on Microsoft's part. People want to use the same browser across devices.

- The proprietary "features" Microsoft would build in Edge over time that only work with certain versions of Windows will come back to bite it in the ass in the future.

Re: Microsoft Edge and open source collaboration

#20

This is HUGE! Microsoft throwing away the IE engine in favor of one more or less standard rendering engine is a huge win for web developers everywhere! It's also something that would have been unimaginable in the Steve Ballmer era. Thank you!

I'm a huge fan of Chrome, but this is a huge loss.

Competition is good. Monoculture is bad.

That said, supporting all of the standards in a way that makes everyone happy is completely impossible. And if you're not in first place, it's just Cost, Cost, Cost for you.

I don't blame them for doing this, but I'm sad about it.

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