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Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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If you are an Australian software engineer, you have one advantage that other nationalities do not: the E3 visa. It is a US working visa that is specifically reserved for Australians and consequently it is much easier to get than an H1B. My advice is that the Australian tech industry just got nuked from orbit, so come work in the USA. The pay is better, the work is more interesting and the tech companies actually hav…

but health care

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

#182

I am an Australian software developer and am currently getting https://www.lifepim.com ready for release which, funnily enough has the main selling point as "Your data is private, secure and free from adverts" - what a joke. The scary part is not knowing how the law is going to be implemented - I am hopeful that smart people work on the implementation of it in terms of practicality. If it is an on request thing "give…

Don't launch in Australia. Or don't launch in Europe. GDPR and this legislation are in direct conflict. Pick a market...

In this case, its a market of ~25million vs a market of nearly ~500 million people..

easy choice to make.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

#183

If you are an Australian software engineer, you have one advantage that other nationalities do not: the E3 visa. It is a US working visa that is specifically reserved for Australians and consequently it is much easier to get than an H1B. My advice is that the Australian tech industry just got nuked from orbit, so come work in the USA. The pay is better, the work is more interesting and the tech companies actually hav…

the US has already been doing this stuff for a long time, without it being legal. They can always pressure you and threaten to ruin any engineer's life if they don't do what they want. and who do you think came up with this legislation? It's US Intelligence. Australia is their testing lab, just like Macca's does.

Apple stared down the FBI in a mass murder case, because it was possible for them to do so. They won't be able to do that in Australia.

I don't like the US shonkiness any more than anyone else. But these situations are not precisely equivalent, especially since this bill passed.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Paid Protonmail has a bridge to IMAP/SMTP. [0] [0] https://protonmail.com/bridge/

GNU/Linux support when?

there is a "beta" version available for linux. This version seem to work perfectly fine on my fedora machine so far.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

#185

If you are an Australian software engineer, you have one advantage that other nationalities do not: the E3 visa. It is a US working visa that is specifically reserved for Australians and consequently it is much easier to get than an H1B. My advice is that the Australian tech industry just got nuked from orbit, so come work in the USA. The pay is better, the work is more interesting and the tech companies actually hav…

but health care

Typically included in your benefits package as part of the job. You don't have to give up Australian citizenship to get an E3, so if necessary you can fly back to Australia for treatment.

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I'm thinking about moving to NZ. How are they?

if you're going to move you really should get out of the anglosphere because the US is dragging down everyone with it and there's just not enough sentiment amongst the populations to move away from the US, even now. Switzerland probably remains the best country in the world and has strong privacy laws and a culture of neutrality. As a plus you get to be in Europe. Tech salaries are high. The anglosphere nations lack…

>lack the intellectual capital amongst the population

Well put, lol.

You make a good case for Switzerland.

What about the Nordic countries?

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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Business opportunity for EU devs provide Australian businesses with PR and code review to ensure their software isn't backdoor'd

More like, biz opportunity to make products competing with Jira, Confluence et al. Wonder how many banks and other security sensitive orgs use Jira and store all their tech specs in there. All of them?

https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/specials/compare/jira-vs-...

https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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So now any of the Five Eyes intelligence agencies can have a chat with ASIO and get them to coerce companies and individuals within companies to put these back doors in. Then they can all use the same back doors, so everyone living in the USA, UK, Canada, and New Zealand can have their encryption compromised and communications intercepted. There's no way that companies will create back doors specifically just for Aus…

And then somebody from inside will get a guilty conscience, but remember what happened to Snowden, and just sell the backdoor straight to Huawei or NSO or Mohamad bin Salem (salving themselves by pretending they're going to donate hundreds of millions to "improving the world", but instead will by private islands and matching citizenships to Peter Thiel's...) :sigh:

While America might have the Espionage Act, we have an law (passed a year or two ago) that gives mandatory minimum sentences of >15 years for revealing information about ASIO. And sharing the information (even if it's public) carries the same penalty -- so re-tweeting such revelations is a criminal offense. As is viewing it.

Chilling effect? More like dipped-in-liquid-nitrogen effect.

I hope Australia will have its own Edward Snowden, but the immediate repercussions would be far more severe in Australia.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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As an Australian software developer who has written encryption software in the past, I'm also very concerned. I'm also doubly concerned that projects will now reject my patches because of my nationality. What an amazing shitshow of a government.

I’m seriously considering moving from Australia to a country that isn’t part of the Five Eyes.

Unfortunately it's going to be way harder than you think because "Five Eyes" expand beyond just "Five Eyes" like "Nine Eyes", "Thirteen Eyes" etc.

Pretty much any "good" country is affiliated with "Five Eyes" in one way or another.

Re: Australian parliament passes encryption laws unamended

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This isn't quite true. The bill allows companies to provide statistics on how many TARs, TANs, and TCNs they've been served within a 6-month window. The obvious problem is that nothing stops them from lying or just omitting that information -- because why would you admit that your software is insecure?

Those weren't passed, it went in unamended

I don't think they were amendments -- they are included in the first reading of the bill (Sect 317ZF.13).
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