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Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by austincheney »

odiroot wrote: post #390
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

> Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: They may be but US is on the right side of history on this one. And I say this as an European.

I don't understand why this comment is so heavily down voted for a simple difference of opinion. That isn't what the down vote is for.

This isn't Reddit, but the argumentative tone of this thread certainly reminds me of Reddit. Sensitive people make me sad :(

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by geff82 »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #449
odiroot wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: They may be but US is on the right side of history on this one. And I say this as an European.

As also an European, I think breaching international agreements like this and making regular people suffer, (because that's what the sanctions are doing), in order to score points because the U.S. is still mad that their regime in Iran got overthrown, I absolutely support the EU opposition to this.

I may say that I recently got a victim of the USA sanctions when our plane back from Iran made two emergency landings in a row and had no real possibility to repair it obviously. We were then put on another Jetliner which can be only seen in museums nowadays (except for Iran, where, thanks to Trump, this is now a dangerous mean transportation). No one should trust the Iranian government without really checking twice everything they say, yet those sanction take hostage of 80 Million people who now really struggle for a decent life. Sure, the US want to create another revolution to overthrow the government. Yet this means regular people have to want to die (because many will fall victims to this authoritarian government then).

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by [deleted] »

nappy wrote: post #443
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes: >>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970…

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by Throwaway888899 »

suyuan1203 wrote: post #464
satori99 wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China has been doing this for a long time already to Australian business people. Several Australian Mining and Casino executives and employees have been imprisoned for considerable time by China's opaque justice system. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-04/stern-hu-explainer-wh... https://www.smh.com.au/business/crown-says-detained-staff-in...

This is not a fair comparison.The Australian citizen was working in the company's ShangHai office and broke Chinese law.

You know that just because you commit a crime in another country doesn't mean you aren't culpable to victim county.

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Post by lagadu »

tempestn wrote: post #452
AsyncAwait wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a substantive point relevant to what the parent said here?

Seems like pretty relevant context to me.

Why? The argument stands on its own legs, how is the commenter's post history relevant?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by HeavyStorm »

throwawaylolx wrote: post #463
nappy wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes: >>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970…

The author of this comment has a history of attacking the Chinese government: >This is ridiculous equivocation between a democratic society with a rule of law and an authoritarian regime. You're kidding yourself if you don't think the Chinese government has an interest in data owned by foreign nationals that they could gain access to.

Ad hominem?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by satori99 »

suyuan1203 wrote: post #464
satori99 wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China has been doing this for a long time already to Australian business people. Several Australian Mining and Casino executives and employees have been imprisoned for considerable time by China's opaque justice system. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-04/stern-hu-explainer-wh... https://www.smh.com.au/business/crown-says-detained-staff-in...

This is not a fair comparison.The Australian citizen was working in the company's ShangHai office and broke Chinese law.

We will never know if that is actually what occurred as all of these cases were prosecuted behind closed doors.

No Australian embassy officials were permitted to assist or even observe court proceedings.

Needless to say, this is not the way a country with a fair justice system behaves.

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