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Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by matt4077 »

eh78ssxv2f wrote: post #349
panarky wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the US was wrong to abandon the nuclear deal with Iran. But that's not the whole story with the Huawei CFO arrest. China and their state-owned and state-controlled companies are stealing trade secrets and military technology instead of developing it on their own. Chinese companies enjoy open access to Western markets, but Western companies are highly restricted in their access to Chinese markets. If Huawei illeg…

> China and their state-owned and state-controlled companies are stealing trade secrets and military technology instead of developing it on their own. Do you have any evidence for this? Have we arrested any US citizens for selling/leaking military technology to China?

I’m as opposed to current US idiocracy as anybody, but requiring people to relitigate every last fact, and prove even widely accepted moral concepts from first principle, just destroys any honest debate.

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Post by emilsedgh »

odiroot wrote: post #390
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

> Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: They may be but US is on the right side of history on this one. And I say this as an European.

As a Jewish born Iranian atheist refugee to the states who protested against Iran a few years ago in Iran, I'd have to say, you're pretty wrong on this one.

I hate Islamic Republic with every single cell in my body but you're just wrong.

* U.S. plain and simply fucked Iran up with a coup at 1953.

* Then helped Islamic Republic gain power in 1979. (This is up for debate though)

* Then helped Saddam Hussein attack Iran.

* Then sanctioned the country to the verge of bankruptcy.

* Then made a deal and backed out of it for no reason (Internal politics?)

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by nappy »

qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes:

>>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970 Kent state massacre, Jesus that was only 48 years ago, not mentioning almost every day someone is being shot by the police somewhere in the US. The funny thing is one shot won't even make it to the newspaper now.)

>>In a word, you have been brainwashed by your media. I know it's hard to wake up someone who pretends to be asleep, but it's good for you.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by saiya-jin »

torstenvl wrote: post #425
Down_n_Out wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But yes, of course I know Shiite military are active in the middle east. I mean, it is their region, right? I can sense militarism in your terminology. Shiite militia, sunni militia? How about state-sponsored violence in the name of oil? You would not call that ‘militia’ would you? Since you copy pasted some news articles as evidence, here is some articles that argue otherwise for you: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/…

Well, since you accuse me of "throw[ing] nuclear . . . around" when I said no such thing, I hope you'll forgive me if I'm not convinced that it is I who should improve the nuance of my position. Particularly since none of the links you've posted support your position. Enjoy the rest of your day.

torstenvl: U.S. Marine officer

That tells all that is needed to know about your defensive and apologist position, as expressed in numerous posts. That's all right, if you work in murdering business for money, I guess you have to convince yourself you are the good guy. Its just that rest of the world doesn't buy it for quite some time

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Post by cedivad »

bjcy wrote: post #224
cedivad wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which to me doesn't sound that different from the above comment talking about Thailand wanting to extradite westerns for offending their king, breaking their law. The something doesn't matter, it's not why she is in trouble.

As a point of clarification, the Guardian article referenced above reports a request from Thailand to extradite Thai nationals living overseas. Thailand's lèse-majesté law was broken by Thais, as opposed to this case where a foreign national broke a US law and was present in an extradition-friendly country (to note, the sanctions are also law in Canada).

So what you are saying is not even Thailand is that much up their asses to behave like the US does in international relationships, this idea of having jurisdiction over anyone all the time is unique to the US.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by saiya-jin »

anad7 wrote: post #414
mtw wrote: post #302

Many are lost in technicalities here, if Canada has the right to arrest a businesswoman, if the US can stop a foreign company to do business with another country. Who cares? I'm partial to Iran because a multi-lateral treaty was signed. Iran stopped nuclear enrichment. In exchange, western countries pledged to provide economic relief and stop sanctions. It is said that Iran has been developing various weapons, but th…

> If you want peace, you have to impose sanctions on Saudi Arabia as well. Funny how Israel never gets mentioned by anyone!

political correctness, being called racist and whatnot

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Post by AsyncAwait »

nappy wrote: post #443
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes: >>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970…

Do you have a substantive point relevant to what the parent said here?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by asianthrowaway »

nappy wrote: post #443
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes: >>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970…

Lol, busted!

I wonder if he's getting paid by the Chinese government.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by AsyncAwait »

odiroot wrote: post #390
qd6pwu4 wrote: post #340

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

> Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: They may be but US is on the right side of history on this one. And I say this as an European.

As also an European, I think breaching international agreements like this and making regular people suffer, (because that's what the sanctions are doing), in order to score points because the U.S. is still mad that their regime in Iran got overthrown, I absolutely support the EU opposition to this.
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