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Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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post #32

What gets me about the entire Google messaging ecosystem is how they manage to be so bad. My messaging system of choice is Signal, and it looks to be about three or four full time people that work on that. It manages to handle SMS, Grop Chat, Video Chat, and End to End encrypted chat for me. I imagine there are more Vice Presidents assigned to Allo then there are employees at Signal, and signal manages to out compete…

and PulseSMS is run by a single person, and it's excellent.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To which many would reply, "Yes, I can Skype with you. I am at work, so I'll be using my Skype for Business program which recently replaced Lync. My Skype will talk to yours, right? Oh it says here that Skype for Business (which used to be Lync (which used to be Office Communicator)), is now Teams, so uhh can you just call me on my phone instead. Thanks

Skype for Business and Teams are not the same app. That said, I've found Teams very lacking in exactly the way Skype is not, and Skype lacking in exactly the way Teams is not which is very frustrating.

SfB is deprecated, and Teams is designated its replacement.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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How are they still getting this wrong. One app for consumers with video and messaging. Make it good, marry it, and shoot the others into the sun.

It really is that simple. It's really shocking that a company like Google has failed over and over at this. Apple nailed it on the first try. Both iMessage and FaceTime.

What's more frustrating is that Google had Google Talk. It was super successful and really well liked. Rather than maintain and improve it, they threw it away.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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You do realize, Google, that most of us are simply not listening to you any more, on this topic?

Personally, you've burned me too many times, in this domain. I won't be looking at your products, going forward.

(My last phone came with a Duo icon pre-installed on the home screen. I felt an active aversion to clicking it; that persisted, and I never have.)

P.S. In retrospect, killing XMPP inter-operability was indeed a harbinger of the larger sh-t-show.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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post #22

I'm going to miss Hangouts. Anyone have any good alternatives for free and anonymous browser-based video calling? For context, I use a permanent Google Hangouts link under my account and made a subdomain of my domain redirect to it ( http://partytime.jmistri.com ). Whenever I want to talk to someone or have an informal group call, I can tell them to "hop on partytime". It doesn't require an account and it's a great h…

https://meet.jit.si/

Never heard of this before, but it looks awesome! Do you know if rooms expire after a certain amount of time? If so I might install it on my server and have a forever running meeting.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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post #176

This is just an utter mess. Google keeps ignoring and trying to kill Hangouts (which should still be called GChat, that was an incredibly stupid rebrand), and building new products instead of investing in the one which actually has some potential. Google could have been a major player in messaging if they had just stuck with GChat/Google talk from the early Gmail days and kept investing in it. It was great on the ear…

Want to know an even more stupid rebrand? A totally new, half-baked business product called Hangouts Chat.

There no polite way of expressing it: Hangouts Chat is a shitty product. We moved to Chat when Hipchat was closed. Because we’re using G-suite it seem sensible to go with Chat, but everyone hates it.

The UI is useless, Google try to be clever about “conversation” and tries to group them together, but now people miss most conversations that happen when they aren’t looking. Notification is broken, you can only get to many or not enough.

Chat seems to be designed by the same incompetent team of interns that did Google Groups. Using the two products feel oddly similar.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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This is just an utter mess. Google keeps ignoring and trying to kill Hangouts (which should still be called GChat, that was an incredibly stupid rebrand), and building new products instead of investing in the one which actually has some potential. Google could have been a major player in messaging if they had just stuck with GChat/Google talk from the early Gmail days and kept investing in it. It was great on the ear…

Yes. Their explanation also didn't make much sense since Hangouts was targeted for a while to consumers. But what I got from this is basically:

Messages iMessage

Duo Facetime

Hangouts Slack

I think they should rename the Hangouts to something completely different. That at least will increase clarity for consumers and businesses.

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