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Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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So the business product is named like a consumer product (Hangouts) and the consumer product is named like a business product (Messages). I suppose that makes sense in today's upside down world.

Quiet, otherwise google will resolve this by launching two new messaging apps.

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Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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I was a user of hangouts for the last 10 years already since a closed for public alpha-beta. It was wonderful product for companies, for teams. It was so easy to create a meeting (because it had an integration with google calendar) invite everyone, add some people phone number to join the same conversation. It just worked and it was the best on the market. Then Google decided to kill this product one by one removing…

Just use hangouts in a web browser and pretend like its a desktop client. What doesn't work with that?

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Creating a google calendar event with an embedded link to a hangouts room works pretty well in my experience.

Second this. Clicking on the add hangouts link is dead simple and does exactly what the OP wants

i don't think OPs problem is the product itself, just the name. he wants a verb-able product name like Skype.

personally, i just go with "can we talk tomorrow" instead of "can we skype tomorrow", and leave the choice of app for a follow up. I don't think being able to use the product name as a verb is an essential feature of a videoconference app.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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What gets me about the entire Google messaging ecosystem is how they manage to be so bad. My messaging system of choice is Signal, and it looks to be about three or four full time people that work on that. It manages to handle SMS, Grop Chat, Video Chat, and End to End encrypted chat for me. I imagine there are more Vice Presidents assigned to Allo then there are employees at Signal, and signal manages to out compete…

Signal and Allo actually have a similar number of installs, they're both in the 10-50m installs bucket in the Play store. I use Signal, but it's fine at best, but it's not really going to break out of it's niche.

It's not really fair to compare installs when Signal doesn't have the free marketing that comes with being a product created and pushed by Google.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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That's basically Hangouts. I sms more from my computer than my phone but it's all synced everywhere. I'm even smsing with a co-worker from my tablet right now.

iMessages integrates really well with os x...

os x, ios, and nothing else. That's the thing I like about gchat, it works everywhere.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Does anyone think that now is Microsoft's best chance to revive Skype as a household name synonymous with chat and video calls? I doubt anyone would want to use any chat app from Google anymore, Facebook is getting really bad PR which could affect WhatsApp as well soon enough. Signal and Telegram are good alternatives but lack marketing muscle. Slack and Discord are mainly used for group chat in professional and gami…

Skype is basically dead at this point, and Microsoft is instead focusing efforts towards its Slack competitor.

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Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Hangouts integrates your Google Voice and Google Fi texts right into web pages like GMail, contacts, etc. And this works even if your phone is off, lost, broken, or has no service. Hangouts also works on any device with an internet connection if you log in. You can text and call from your number on literally any device just by signing into hangouts. None of the multitude of other redundant Google messaging products d…

This makes no sense to me - why not integrate texts into Google Sheets or Google Maps? This feels like pushing unrelated projects to boost engagement. iMessage does not invade my email. Didn't Google get badly burned integrating chat into gmail (Google buzz)?

I too prefer keeping them separate. Thankfully there's hangouts.google.com.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzin…

You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).

I mean, it's not like it'd be terribly hard to have an initial setup screen asking if you'd like to use Hangouts or not. I wouldn't trust Google not to make it seem mandatory, though. Or to put it in just to please Europe but in actual fact just breeze past it.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Hopping from text to video in a single click is cool... But the #1 thing that stops me from even considering buying an Android device is "it's not iMessage". iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic. No hassle at all and I can blue bubble send perfection to any other iPhone-r. It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. I think that's what is really missing. People don't mind opening an…

That's basically Hangouts. I sms more from my computer than my phone but it's all synced everywhere. I'm even smsing with a co-worker from my tablet right now.

Your "That's basically Hangouts" arrangements statement is true when it comes to:

>It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly.

But as for Hangouts being flawless messaging and not just some buggy app, I have to disagree.

Often I'll type a message and hit send, it will stay in sending and never actually send. I'll need to kill the app and when I reopen, the message is gone but if I retype it and hit send, it sends immediately. This is on a Pixel 2 with Project Fi or WiFi.

Clearly that aren't doing something properly and I feel quality of the app has degraded as their efforts go elsewhere, viz. Allo, messages, etc.

Hangouts is flawless on the browser on my laptop though.

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