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The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by kbar13 »

samstave wrote: post #153
scotchio wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopping from text to video in a single click is cool... But the #1 thing that stops me from even considering buying an Android device is "it's not iMessage". iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic. No hassle at all and I can blue bubble send perfection to any other iPhone-r. It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. I think that's what is really missing. People don't mind opening an…

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not an imessage problem but a your employer problem. you know the spiel that chrome puts up when you open an incognito tab?

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by Groxx »

jordanthoms wrote: post #164

This is just an utter mess. Google keeps ignoring and trying to kill Hangouts (which should still be called GChat, that was an incredibly stupid rebrand), and building new products instead of investing in the one which actually has some potential. Google could have been a major player in messaging if they had just stuck with GChat/Google talk from the early Gmail days and kept investing in it. It was great on the ear…

I'm also one of those that was / is still sad about losing XMPP integration. Highly customizable alerts are borderline essential if you have a lot of threads going, but hangouts seems determined to prevent you from doing any of that.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by tehlike »

zapzupnz wrote: post #156
tehlike wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic." I don't think i got what you are saying... What do you mean automatic?

I suspect they mean that once you've logged in with your Apple ID, which is pretty much required to use an iOS device beyond the stock apps, iMessage and FaceTime both get set up. So, if setting up a phone for nana, you take it out of the box, set her up with an Apple ID, put it back in the box, send it to her, she takes it out of the box, and then you call or text her, all she has to do is answer the call. No futzin…

You cannot make everybody happy, i guess. If google opted in everyone to hangouts by default, people would go crazy (see chrome opting you into google accounts).

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by mkhpalm »

Still sounds like waffling to me. Unless they plan on acting now (dropping something tomorrow) I suspect these plans can easily change again. Just as they did through Allo and the last time they tried to differentiate their many competing solutions to the same problem.

Meanwhile, many people are not interested in waiting around to find or figure it out. Plenty of clear and concise alternatives.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by paxys »

sorenjan wrote: post #57

Does anyone think that now is Microsoft's best chance to revive Skype as a household name synonymous with chat and video calls? I doubt anyone would want to use any chat app from Google anymore, Facebook is getting really bad PR which could affect WhatsApp as well soon enough. Signal and Telegram are good alternatives but lack marketing muscle. Slack and Discord are mainly used for group chat in professional and gami…

Skype is basically dead at this point, and Microsoft is instead focusing efforts towards its Slack competitor.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by smt88 »

jordanthoms wrote: post #164

This is just an utter mess. Google keeps ignoring and trying to kill Hangouts (which should still be called GChat, that was an incredibly stupid rebrand), and building new products instead of investing in the one which actually has some potential. Google could have been a major player in messaging if they had just stuck with GChat/Google talk from the early Gmail days and kept investing in it. It was great on the ear…

Want to know an even more stupid rebrand?

A totally new, half-baked business product called Hangouts Chat.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by smt88 »

sorenjan wrote: post #34

I'm pretty sure this blog post was forced due to the recent articles about Hangouts and Allo on 9to5google.com [0], [1]. Thinking that Messages, which uses SMS and RCS were available, would have any impact on messaging is wishful thinking at best. Where I live almost nobody uses SMS for person to person conversations, it's mainly used for package notifications, 2FA codes, and so on. RCS isn't available as far as I kn…

SMS is still huge in the US, especially because of iMessage integration

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by planb »

philtar wrote: post #167
scotchio wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopping from text to video in a single click is cool... But the #1 thing that stops me from even considering buying an Android device is "it's not iMessage". iMessage doesn't have single click to video, but it's also automatic. No hassle at all and I can blue bubble send perfection to any other iPhone-r. It's also synced to all my devices flawlessly. I think that's what is really missing. People don't mind opening an…

More than one billion people on whatsapp disagree with you.

That's not really implied. I'm also on Whatsapp (to communicate with Android users) but I agree with every word in that comment.

Re: The latest on Messages, Allo, Duo and Hangouts

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Post by Latteland »

Why don't they build one chat system that all of these features work with. And when they want to try a new feature, put it as an option on the same app. You don't need to make a new chat app all the time! Pick one, give it a video call option, let it do sms, let it chat with people with google account, make it work with business domains hosted by google. Done!
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