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Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by baroffoos »

thwy12321 wrote: post #31

Google's main problem is that they only promote people for releasing new products. So all the engineers and product people are highly incentive to only work on new launches. Doesn't even matter what it is. So now they end up with all these garbage products laying around, none of which make them any money.

They also only care about stupid metrics. One google dev said they got given an old project and they found it was full of bugs and reporting loads of bad info so the dev added a bunch of tests that picked up on the bugs and bad data and then they were denied the promotion because the errors logged from the program they were working on went up since they started working on it.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by tinus_hn »

burger_moon wrote: post #33

Does anyone have a good alternative for someone who is not tech savvy at all and on an Android phone? I set this up on my mom’s phone because she doesn’t get good enough cell reception at or around her place so an internet based messaging system works best. She is in very poor health and can barely hold the phone so something that doesn’t have a lot of small icons and in general just easy to setup and use would be gr…

Why not plain old voip? Works like a regular old phone and you can hook up a ton of devices because it’s an open standard.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by Rebelgecko »

mcrittenden wrote: post #71
SwellJoe wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People use Hangouts. No one I know has ever used Allo. It hasn't even come up in conversation, even when they were marketing it. Hangouts, on the other hand, I get meeting requests all the time that include a Hangouts link. It's a quite popular technology...in my, admittedly limited, experience, it is a leading option, if not the leading option, in the "let's schedule an online meeting" sort of way. So, I have no ide…

I think you're confusing Hangouts with Meet? Meet isn't going away as far as I know.

Isn't "Hangouts Meet"[1] just the enterprise-y version of Hangouts? That's what it looks like on the comparison page[2], minus some Hangouts features that are missing in Hangouts Meet (no text chat, fewer supported browsers)

[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

[2]: https://gsuite.google.com/learning-center/products/meet/swit...

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by SwellJoe »

mcrittenden wrote: post #71
SwellJoe wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People use Hangouts. No one I know has ever used Allo. It hasn't even come up in conversation, even when they were marketing it. Hangouts, on the other hand, I get meeting requests all the time that include a Hangouts link. It's a quite popular technology...in my, admittedly limited, experience, it is a leading option, if not the leading option, in the "let's schedule an online meeting" sort of way. So, I have no ide…

I think you're confusing Hangouts with Meet? Meet isn't going away as far as I know.

I don't know what Meet is.

When I add an event in Google Calender, there is an "Add Conferencing" dropdown...in it is "Hangouts". That adds a conference link to the event, which I can then share with whoever I want to meet with. When it comes time to meet, I open the email reminder, or look in my calendar, and click the link. Everybody shows up...we meet. That's Hangouts, as far as I know. It opens in the Hangouts group video UI. I receive these invites from others pretty regularly, so I don't think it's anything mysterious? But, as far as I know I've never received a Meet invite.

Google is very bad at branding and marketing is what I think we can learn from this.

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Post by whitepoplar »

smt88 wrote: post #48
GuiA wrote: post #44

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Not that I’m defending Allo, but I don’t know how useful your distinction is. What is an earnest product then? Any product released by a company that has bills to pay is released to “get market share”.

I assumed GP meant that there's nothing in it for the user, only for the company. Other examples include carrier-branded apps that come preinstalled on phones.

Exactly this.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by gomox »

TwoNineA wrote: post #6
rubatuga wrote: post #3

Seriously what the fuck is google doing?

Throwing shit at wall until something sticks? Example: Google Talk, Messages, Hangouts, Allo

Now there's also "Meet". And "Duo". Or how about that time when they tried to merge SMS into Hangouts? What a trainwreck.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by gomox »

SwellJoe wrote: post #85
mcrittenden wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're confusing Hangouts with Meet? Meet isn't going away as far as I know.

I don't know what Meet is. When I add an event in Google Calender, there is an "Add Conferencing" dropdown...in it is "Hangouts". That adds a conference link to the event, which I can then share with whoever I want to meet with. When it comes time to meet, I open the email reminder, or look in my calendar, and click the link. Everybody shows up...we meet. That's Hangouts, as far as I know. It opens in the Hangouts gr…

That thing you are describing used to be Hangouts, but is now Meet.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by joshuamorton »

iainmerrick wrote: post #54
kyrra wrote: post #11

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FYI, there was an update to that article that stated (from the lead for Hangouts) that Hangouts has no set shutdown yet, and they plan on transitioning everyone to Hangouts Chat/Meet before Hangouts Classic goes down. see: https://9to5google.com/2018/12/02/google-hangouts-shutting-d...

I have never understood why Google always exposes these account migrations to end users. Okay, something significant about the implementation is changing, and that takes development time, sure; why do users need to know or care about it? Just figure out how to make the migration as seamless as possible for them.

They didn't, this was leaked.

Re: Source: Google Allo will be officially shut down soon

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Post by parineum »

tinus_hn wrote: post #75
ams6110 wrote: post #66

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I'd put Google Drive/Docs/Sheets in there as home runs. They just keep getting better and better. I hardly ever think about using a desktop office suite any more. Remember when collaborating on a document meant emailing copies and revisions back and forth to each other? Unthinkable now. But Allo? My thought was "oh, another Google product I never heard of is shutting down."

They have to, otherwise Microsoft will trample them with their SharePoint/Office online offering.

Apple is currently trampling Google in messaging.
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