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Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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As a person who doesn't know much about HDD technology, I always wonder: what were the advances that allowed this particular bump to happen?

ELI15: before, when you wrote to disk, you needed a stronger magnetic pulse to change the polarity of the bit. This meant a wider area per bit. Now, we can heat a smaller part of the disk, making it easier to flip the polarity with a smaller magnetic pulse, so the area of the bit doesn't need to be as large, so we can store more info.

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I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart).

I think this is probably because I stream everything, and don't download much content. Even most of my applications are web-based these days. Granted, I'm sure that a lot of storage in the cloud is required to service me...

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For general file storage spinning disk HDD are still better cost, but there is a decreasing need for general file storage for the average person. For most people one terabyte is more than enough and it may as well be an SSD that is also their boot drive. Personally I'd love to replace my multiple 2TB drives with 8TB drives if the price comes down a bit.

Me too, but the idea of having so much of my data on a single drive terrifies me. Not sure about you, but I'd probably buy a couple (from different manufacturers or, at least, different batches), just to RAID-1 them.

And automatically ship logs to another set of disks, preferably on a different continent.

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Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

Seagate is well known for quality issues. I usually have no more than one Seagate in a RAID and plan for it to fail first.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

I have Seagate drives spinning for more than 5 years now with no data loss.

Some drives fail. It's a fact of life. Always buy more than one (from different manufacturers, if possible), remember RAID-1 is your friend and do your backups as if your life depended on them. Because, in this age, it does.

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post #22

I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart). I think this is probably because I st…

you also do not game a lot. if you look at https://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=9339&game=R... you will see that you need 100gb for just that single game.

I mean my own music library which is rather small has 250gb...

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#27

Anyone have an opinion about Seagate? I had one of their HDD and it died on me within a year. Not sure if this was a 'one-off' or other people had issues with their quality. Similar issue with samsung on SSD.

I've used them exclusively for the past 10 years in my web servers and I couldn't be happier. I've had the occasional drive fail on me here and there, of course, but some of those 10-year-old drives are still humming along nicely.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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post #22

I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart). I think this is probably because I st…

I play games, and rarely get time to finish them. So I usually have a hard drive dedicated just to game installs. Then I have disk(s) for storage of code, pictures, ebooks, music, etc. My boot drive is usually 250 GB or 500 GB, but I use numerous TB drives.

I had a lot of issues with >2 TB HDDs in terms of performance though before, and generally avoid them.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

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post #22

I know that big disks are useful for a lot of people/applications. However, I topped out at 500GB about 10 years ago. That gives me plenty of headroom. Since then, I have gone from a 500GB HDD to a SSD, but my space usage hasn't really gone up. The largest disk I own is a 1TB disk in my Time Capsule (which I could probably stand to upgrade, but I don't feel like taking it apart). I think this is probably because I st…

As you say you stream your videos. Now imagine getting that shiny new 4k video camera and start storing raw footage even after you have edited it. Rough ballbark of 120Mbits/s ==> 15MB/s ==> 900MB/minute ==> 54GB/hour. This is why I keep adding more and more disks to my NAS.

Re: Seagate Announces 16TB HDD

#30

As a person who doesn't know much about HDD technology, I always wonder: what were the advances that allowed this particular bump to happen?

From TFA: >The Exos 16 TB hard drive using HAMR technology is now the world’s biggest HDD in terms of capacity overtaking the 14 TB Barracuda Pro. >HAMR, which is the acronym for heat-assisted magnetic recording, to be precise. This replaces the regular PMR, perpendicular magnetic recording, found in most HDDs. To the average consumer, this doesn’t mean much at all. However, Seagate believes that HAMR is the key to m…

What is the theoretical realistic limits for HDD storage?

From the sounds of it this 16TB HAMR-enabled drive is just the first of many we will see year-to-year to continue HDD sales.

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