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Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by psetq »

nine_k wrote: post #40

What if a browser was built like Emacs is built? With low-level rendering core exposing almost everything to scripting in Lisp, and the entire UX written in Lisp, fully customizable? It appears that Next goes in this direction. I don't know if gtk-webkit allows to script it very deeply, e.g. enough to expose DOM and write extensions in Lisp. It would also be great to have something like the Emacs's customization fram…

You're basically just using Emacs then, right?

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by whyrusleeping »

rauhl wrote: post #27

Congratulations! It won’t be ready for primetime until there’s a good adblocker — but now that it runs on Linux, folks like me can work on an adblocker for it. I’m really excited for you & for your browser. I was a contributor to your Indiegogo campaign & was really bummed to see it fall short of the mark (although no doubt nowhere near as bummed as you were); it’s great to see that you’ve managed to move ahead nonet…

We should have more people who can't wait to replace chrome.

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by nine_k »

psetq wrote: post #51
nine_k wrote: post #40

What if a browser was built like Emacs is built? With low-level rendering core exposing almost everything to scripting in Lisp, and the entire UX written in Lisp, fully customizable? It appears that Next goes in this direction. I don't know if gtk-webkit allows to script it very deeply, e.g. enough to expose DOM and write extensions in Lisp. It would also be great to have something like the Emacs's customization fram…

You're basically just using Emacs then, right? https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html

Yes, this is a nice thing. But it supports way fewer features a modern web site could legitimately use.

The modern browser engine exposes a lot of controls to scripts and to the chrome layer. IIRC Firefox uses this extensively to code (most of) the UI in Javascript and HTML/ CSS. But this is not very exposed to the user, and web extensions are intentionally limited.

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by haloux »

PaulHoule wrote: post #25

I like the idea but it doesn't go anywhere near far enough. I feel like the web has become that "City of Destruction" that is talked about in "Pilgrim's Progress"; something like 95% of the bytes transferred are just junk. I am not at all interested in "seeing the content the way the created intended it", I really would rather decompose it into a semantic graph and then put it together to show me what is relevant. Th…

For those wondering about the Pilgrims Progress reference, this is probably what OP intends:

" HELP. Then said he, Give me thy hand: so he gave him his hand, and he drew him out, and set him upon sound ground, and bid him go on his way. [Ps. 40:2]

{33} Then I stepped to him that plucked him out, and said, Sir, wherefore, since over this place is the way from the City of Destruction to yonder gate, is it that this plat is not mended, that poor travellers might go thither with more security? And he said unto me, This miry slough is such a place as cannot be mended; it is the descent whither the scum and filth that attends conviction for sin doth continually run, and therefore it is called the Slough of Despond; for still, as the sinner is awakened about his lost condition, there ariseth in his soul many fears, and doubts, and discouraging apprehensions, which all of them get together, and settle in this place. And this is the reason of the badness of this ground."

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by PaulHoule »

asituop wrote: post #43
PaulHoule wrote: post #25

I like the idea but it doesn't go anywhere near far enough. I feel like the web has become that "City of Destruction" that is talked about in "Pilgrim's Progress"; something like 95% of the bytes transferred are just junk. I am not at all interested in "seeing the content the way the created intended it", I really would rather decompose it into a semantic graph and then put it together to show me what is relevant. Th…

Like Reader Mode ?

That just seems to add a lot of fashionable whitespace so that I can only use 50% of the pixels on the screen that I paid for.

Reader Mode just seems like the button on a tracfone that does nothing but burn up half a minute by booting up a useless web browser.

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by hedning »

ryacko wrote: post #38
Majestic121 wrote: post #11

It seems pretty interesting, especially the mouseless part. I tried [Vimperator]( http://vimperator.org/ ) on Firefox for a while, but it seems the web was really hard to use without a mouse. I might give it a try again

Sometimes, CTRL-F the text of the link highlights it, so pressing ESC and then enter would select the link. Only allows one to not move a mouse sometimes.

When searching using / you don't need the escape part. There's also ' which only searches links.

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by all2 »

bloopernova wrote: post #45
nine_k wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, when I finally have free time, I'll spend some of it to write a reasonably good implementation of Org Mode data model in Typescript, and maybe in something else, to help making Org Mode support painless everywhere, like Markdown now.

I really wish I was a better, more focused, coder to be able to help such efforts. It would benefit me to really learn Typescript deeply, since many of my employer's projects are written in it. Me = Sysadmin/Devops = jack of all trades, master of none.

I make lists. Lists (and a planner I mostly ignore) keep my on track. The "Get(ting) Things Done" method is, in some ways, making lists. Maybe that could help?

That, and pacing myself during mentally intensive tasks. I do 25 on, 10 off (more than pomodoro, because my brain). This works really well for me. You may have to adjust the variables to make it work well for you.

Re: Show HN: Next Browser native on Linux

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Post by bluesign »

jmercouris wrote: post #36
mosselman wrote: post #29

Won't start on macOS 10.14.1

make sure to completely kill any running zombie instances of the program, copy it to your disk and try running it again. (e.g. search in activity monitor for "cocoa-webkit" and "next", and make sure there are no processes with that name)

I think it is more than that, libxmlrpc++.8.39.dylib missing in my case I guess
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