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Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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Google's feed does an amazing job of avoiding filter bubble. One of the best in the industry actually. I use the product and wrote a blogpost about it: https://getstream.io/blog/google-feed-personalization-and-re... It makes total sense for them to personalize search results. If I am searching for Django it's the framework not the musician. When I search for a restaurant name it's the one in Boulder, Co, not a restau…

It's not creeping me out, it's disgusting me. When I want to look for django reinhardt, I can look for "django music" or whatever, if I want the framework "django web framework" should do the trick. Oh, and and when I add a + before I word I want that word to show up, if there are no results with that word, show me no results.

I'm fine with others having the option of personalized search, I'm not fine with me not having it.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think people will switch back to Google because they find the results more useful, even in privacy mode. I now use duckduckgo as default search engine and my experience is mixed. The problem with google is that sometime you search for something new and then you see the bubble very clearly, which applies non only to search but also to youtube (maybe even more). The problem with duckduckgo is that you are searching…

I keep on trying to love duckduckgo but find that often even typing the exact title of an article I'm looking for, it's not on the first page of results...

Can you post an example? I’ve been using DDG for years, and have never encountered this.

Also, the DDG devs are certainly lurking on this thread, and can fix the class of queries in question.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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2018 was the year I adopted ddg, not because of privacy, but because google result sucks. Almost every time I search, I don’t get a single result I want on the first page. The first 3 results are sponsored adds, then there is the Danish Wikipedia article (useless), then 3-6 advertisements pretending to be content, and then if I’m lucky something that was relevant 5 years ago. DDG isn’t much better, but it’s better. I…

I use DDG out of principle but to be honest Google is still much better for the stuff I am searching.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

#35
I'm hosting my own SearX [0] instance to try and eliminate search bubble and control my search history.

SearX is a metasearch engine that proxies out search requests and randomizes all browser fingerprints to make it difficult for any individual to be tracked via algorithm. I don't know how effective it is of course, but I find I prefer the search results I get out of it vs google, even if the image search interface isn't as flashy.

I put my instance behind https and simple auth to allow me a bit of security while using it outside of my private network.

If you want the privacy shield vs google/bing/etc and don't mind a middleman having your search history, there are public SearX instances as well [1].

[0] https://github.com/asciimoo/searx

[1] https://www.searx.me/

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

#36
I have a theory that filter bubbles are causing intolerance to other peoples views. Ie most of the content we consume are through filter bubbles. In other words that most people consume content that are tailored to them. Thus we have less acceptance of things that are not similar as we are less exposed to different content.

Filter bubble examples: Search services: Google, Bing Movies: Netflix Music: Spotify, Apple Music recommendations News: Facebook Social media: Facebook feeds

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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I imagine a company with the data to infer a sequence of likely link clicks from one identified affinity group to another, can in theory manipulate the displayed suggested link series for a large enough population to shape behavior/thought on a significant societal and global level.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

#38
The filter bubble is the best thing ever. I use search engines to find things and Google finds them for me. I want it to be super tailored to me and show reputable results.

I remember 2000s era search and looking at Page 2. Now I don't scroll below result five 99% of the time. Thank you, Google.

I have to say, though. US Google is better than any other Google I've used.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

#39

Google's feed does an amazing job of avoiding filter bubble. One of the best in the industry actually. I use the product and wrote a blogpost about it: https://getstream.io/blog/google-feed-personalization-and-re... It makes total sense for them to personalize search results. If I am searching for Django it's the framework not the musician. When I search for a restaurant name it's the one in Boulder, Co, not a restau…

It's not creeping me out, it's disgusting me. When I want to look for django reinhardt, I can look for "django music" or whatever, if I want the framework "django web framework" should do the trick. Oh, and and when I add a + before I word I want that word to show up, if there are no results with that word, show me no results. I'm fine with others having the option of personalized search, I'm not fine with me not hav…

Just in case you aren’t aware, google deprecated the + operator years ago. If you want to ensure a single word is in your results you can put quotation marks around it. It mostly works.

Re: Measuring the “Filter Bubble”: How Google is influencing what you click

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post #35

I'm hosting my own SearX [0] instance to try and eliminate search bubble and control my search history. SearX is a metasearch engine that proxies out search requests and randomizes all browser fingerprints to make it difficult for any individual to be tracked via algorithm. I don't know how effective it is of course, but I find I prefer the search results I get out of it vs google, even if the image search interface…

My search productivity greatly improved when I switched to self-hosted searx. I tried to advocate this to my network of friends but with little success. I run it in a docker container and it's just so easy to manage and the results are so much better.

Being open source, you're free to fiddle with it anyway you want and I consider it as a sort of condom for your privacy.

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