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How do you force a split when one part (Whatsapp) may not have enough revenue to sustain itself?

I've long held a theory that many of the "basic infrastructure" pieces of technology would best be put forward by non-profits. The profit imperative can be an insidious corrosive influence.

OT: Similar for health, in the UK you can see once some parts were privatised more and more gets privatised - not surprisingly, these companies have a duty to grow.

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> Sharing or not sharing data with another app is likewise not an unusual decision. FB is not a public utility - they can not work with other apps for any reason, or no reason at all. And this is a particularly ironic thing to point out, considering that the main thrust is complaining that they _did_ share data with other apps. So it's bad if they do share data, but also bad if they don't? To me, this would be Facebo…

> is not Facebook's data Look at the T&Cs sometime. Once you upload something, it's theirs. Once they sniff something off your phone, it's theirs. Once you look at something in another tab while FB is open, it's theirs.

GDPR, and even the former 1998 Data Protection Act disagrees. Ts&Cs can't override statute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Act_1998#Data_...

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Here is a direct link to the files themselves: https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/cultu...

Really interesting stuff in there. > Facebook email 24 January 2013 > Justin Osofsky – ‘Twitter launched Vine today which lets you shoot multiple short video segments to make one single, 6-second video. As part of their NUX, you can find friends via FB. Unless anyone raises objections, we will shut down their friends API access today. We’ve prepared reactive PR, and I will let Jana know our decision. > MZ – ‘Yup, go…

What is NUX? I was googling and closest I could find was New User Experience, is that right?

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Here is a direct link to the files themselves: https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/cultu...

Really interesting stuff in there. > Facebook email 24 January 2013 > Justin Osofsky – ‘Twitter launched Vine today which lets you shoot multiple short video segments to make one single, 6-second video. As part of their NUX, you can find friends via FB. Unless anyone raises objections, we will shut down their friends API access today. We’ve prepared reactive PR, and I will let Jana know our decision. > MZ – ‘Yup, go…

What's really striking is how user-hostile this conversation is. Forget about whether the user wants to share their data or not - it's all about what Facebook wants to do. In this case, that's snuffing competition by denying access, in the case of Cambridge Analytica, it's sharing data for purposes of shady data "research".

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I'm not advocating for anything here, but isn't hurting innovation and economic growth exactly what FB is doing by snuffing out promising products based on analytics?

Would it be better if, instead of analytics, they flipped a coin?

I know you're being facetious, but it might actually be?

In nature, random mutation leads to greater genetic diversity and speciation. In some mathematical optimizations, introducing random noise can help avoid getting stuck in local maxima.

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I totally get this POV. But honestly, if you work at FB, you definitely have options. So no, this POV does not really apply to people at FB.

H1B visa holders for example. To change job you need an entire new visa application which is not guaranteed to win the lottery. Even Facebook employees can have limited options. And it’s not just engineers. Cleaners, cooks, maintenance people.

> To change job you need an entire new visa application which is not guaranteed to win the lottery.

Nope - visa transfers when changing employer aren't subject to the visa cap and don't have to go through the lottery. At present premium processing is suspended so it can take up to 6 months, but that's not always the case.

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> Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail It's not clear what this means. Is it an API that returns '403 forbideen' or more of a case of lack of competitive information

https://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/facebook-cuts-off-acce... > Yes, within a day of Vine’s launch, Facebook pulled the ability for Vine users to find Facebook friends who were also using the new app.

Thanks

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The bigger problem is that, as I understand it, all of these documents were obtained from someone suing Facebook who had access to them as part of a lawsuit against Facebook under a court order that required them to be kept confidential.

The law was followed to get access to these files. What are you talking about? Regardless of your agreement with the manner of procurement, nothing nefarious was done here. This is what happens when CEOs ignore governments.

Which law? They were seized by the British government under British law, but the court order which gave the person they were seized from access to them and imposed conditions on how they were used was a US one.
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