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Facebook's seized files published by MPs

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Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#21

Good for them, thank you! The sooner facebook is controlled and broken up into pieces, the better. They are a massive net negative on civilization. Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you.

> Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you. Everyone needs to work somewhere, you know, and not everyone has much of a choice about where. No shame in putting food on the table for your family.

I agree in principle, but if you can work at Facebook, you can probably work at any other(more ethical) tech company.

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#22
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> Facebook used data provided by the Israeli analytics firm Onavo to determine which other mobile apps were being downloaded and used by the public. It then used this knowledge to decide which apps to acquire or otherwise treat as a threat > there was evidence that Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail Stuff like this should trigger the EU Commissioner for Competition to withdraw the aut…

A world in which companies are not allowed to selectively withhold proprietary data from some competitors, and form partnerships with others, is a world that suboptimally promotes innovation and economic growth.

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#23

Good for them, thank you! The sooner facebook is controlled and broken up into pieces, the better. They are a massive net negative on civilization. Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you.

> Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you. Everyone needs to work somewhere, you know, and not everyone has much of a choice about where. No shame in putting food on the table for your family.

I guess it's a bit of a stretch to say that if you can get a job at Facebook, you can't get a job anywhere else...

(as if what you describe would even be a valid excuse)

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#24
post #7

> Facebook used data provided by the Israeli analytics firm Onavo to determine which other mobile apps were being downloaded and used by the public. It then used this knowledge to decide which apps to acquire or otherwise treat as a threat > there was evidence that Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail Stuff like this should trigger the EU Commissioner for Competition to withdraw the aut…

> A fine (no matter how big)

$200 billion, and a review in 12 months time?

That's 5 years revenue. $100 per user, sounds reasonable. Facebook can put in an easy "claim your $100" button on their site. Would that just be a "cost of doing business"?

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#25

Good for them, thank you! The sooner facebook is controlled and broken up into pieces, the better. They are a massive net negative on civilization. Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you.

> Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you. Everyone needs to work somewhere, you know, and not everyone has much of a choice about where. No shame in putting food on the table for your family.

I have sympathy for those cleaning floors at Facebook HQ, but it's disingenuous to suggest that the engineers (with compensation packages many multiples the local median, getting daily LinkedIn recruiter spam) "have no choice" about where to work.

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you. Everyone needs to work somewhere, you know, and not everyone has much of a choice about where. No shame in putting food on the table for your family.

I totally get this POV. But honestly, if you work at FB, you definitely have options. So no, this POV does not really apply to people at FB.

H1B visa holders for example. To change job you need an entire new visa application which is not guaranteed to win the lottery. Even Facebook employees can have limited options.

And it’s not just engineers. Cleaners, cooks, maintenance people.

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#27
post #7

> Facebook used data provided by the Israeli analytics firm Onavo to determine which other mobile apps were being downloaded and used by the public. It then used this knowledge to decide which apps to acquire or otherwise treat as a threat > there was evidence that Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail Stuff like this should trigger the EU Commissioner for Competition to withdraw the aut…

How do you force a split when one part (Whatsapp) may not have enough revenue to sustain itself?

I'll happily chip in a dollar a year or so.

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#29
post #7

> Facebook used data provided by the Israeli analytics firm Onavo to determine which other mobile apps were being downloaded and used by the public. It then used this knowledge to decide which apps to acquire or otherwise treat as a threat > there was evidence that Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail Stuff like this should trigger the EU Commissioner for Competition to withdraw the aut…

I have no particular love for FB or what they've done with data, but these I don't understand why either of those points is particularly controversial or even unusual.

> Facebook used data provided by the Israeli analytics firm Onavo to determine which other mobile apps were being downloaded and used by the public. It then used this knowledge to decide which apps to acquire or otherwise treat as a threat

Checking out your competition is pretty standard among all businesses, as is buying out the ones you can't beat.

> there was evidence that Facebook's refusal to share data with some apps caused them to fail

Sharing or not sharing data with another app is likewise not an unusual decision. FB is not a public utility - they can not work with other apps for any reason, or no reason at all. And this is a particularly ironic thing to point out, considering that the main thrust is complaining that they _did_ share data with other apps. So it's bad if they do share data, but also bad if they don't?

Re: Facebook's seized files published by MPs

#30

Good for them, thank you! The sooner facebook is controlled and broken up into pieces, the better. They are a massive net negative on civilization. Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you.

> Do you work at Facebook? Shame on you. Everyone needs to work somewhere, you know, and not everyone has much of a choice about where. No shame in putting food on the table for your family.

If you've ever worked at FB, you can get a job at basically any other tech company very easily. So, no. There is shame in that for FB employees.
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