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The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
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Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well. Basically if I have to write a letter I: - hit a single key on my keyboard (pause to be precise) - hit 'l' followed by few arrow down to choose between italian, french, swedish or english letter template than enter - start type the letter (my sender address autocompleted, I only type firs letter than tab and yasnippet insert the rest correctly) - hit a two key combination (control+c than control+e) or run org-e…
Well I'm sure you must have good reasons for setting something up like this and it must work for you, but to me it all sounds like mysterious incantations (why are you pressing the pause key to do something other than pause something?) and over-optimisation, rather than making things plain and simple. How many letters do you write a day for it to need to be optimised into single key shortcuts? My bottleneck is never…
because I do not use pause key for any purpose and single-key action are super-comfortable. For instance in my setup I open my mail dashboard (notmuch-emacs) with it's saved searches that I can open with a mouse click or a single key action again), tags etc simply hitting F6, shift+F6 open a mail compose buffer (window), F10 open firefox with a work profile, shift+F10 firefox with a personal profile, F7 open agenda, shift+F7 open agenda's main file etc.
It's far simpler, efficient and comfortable than click on some launchers that are always less than you need. Only I feel the pain that actual keyboards offer far less keys than in the past...
> How many letters do you write a day for it to need to be optimized into single key shortcuts?
I write them rarely, but I have no shortcut for letter but for ANY documents, the pause keys simply popup a menu that present me some personal choices (letter, reports, slides, projects of various kind and languages etc), I choose one from the list and find it pre-made as much as possible. Only for letter I use normally double-window envelope that to work properly demand a certain position, certain address format, certain fonts etc. If I made them by hand and rarely I certainly make mistake, have template them once I can write straight away painless. It does not cost me substantially anything, only around half an hour once in my life and pay back at any letter I write. Same for slides. It took few hours to made few personal template and after I can only write down contents. Same for thesis, reports, ...
Basically a step at a time I crate my digital environment thanks to Emacs and now I have anything at my fingertips at an unprecedented level and essentially at no cost since I add stuff when I have time, calm, without pressure nor frustration and I found it back when I need and perhaps I'm on hurry.
For instance I have regular invoices by mail (telephone, electricity, water supply bills) in the past I spend few time regularly to read them (I normally have them auto-paid by the bank) and archive by hand. Now thanks to notmuch hooks I have simple scripts that when a known bill arrive archive it accordingly and add a small note to my startup dashboard. So now when I have time I read the bill with a simple enter in the dashboard, when I quit the entry goes away from the dashboard and anything is done. If the correspondent payment does not show up in ledger (personal accounting) after some time (actually I'm not developed anything that guess when to expect the payment from an invoice) an alert popup in my dashboard and when I open it I found in a click/enter the "unmatched" invoice...
I have similar automation, all made in free time when I'm willing to build, for mail autorefiling (IMAPFilter), with Alt+F6 (my "official mail key") I go straight to unread mails or get a "no unread mail" message in the minibuffer echo area and mail are automatically refiled as much as possible in their proper dir. After a certain amount of time and depending of mail directory IMAPFilter automatically delete the message helping me keep my mails clean and easy to search. When an unread message need to be left around for some reason I may add a proper tag to snooze or categorize it in some temporary way, few tags can be added by single keypress on the message, for instance 'l' add "live" tags that automatically show up in general dashboard, and mail dashboard, O add "order" tags for online shopping done but waiting to receive the package, T add todo tag etc.
It's more complicate to explain it than build thanks to Emacs and again I'v build in baby step and more other will come, when I feel the need for it or I'm curious or simply I have free time and willingness to automate some things.
That's in synthesis an ecosystem tailored to my needs, thanks to flexible and easy to customize software, that keep me evolving everyday. All other environment I know are like a wrench: can be useful for doing few things but can't really be customized nor evolved.
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mh, for me just because life is too short I never really learned spreadsheet software (and I have seen many disaster made thanks to them, including important institutional and scientific ones) and I'm happy without them... Try to look for some Emacs demos on YT&c, perhaps you'll discover a different world :-)
Is that really a solid argument? Haven't you also seen numerous "disasters made" with other platforms / tools / programming languages "including in important institutional and scientific ones"? (no snark intended)
Spreadsheets IME are environment that really help human error and disguise them well enough...
About solidity I can't answer having not enough data, I can only say that I still have to see anything more efficient than Emacs in the world and I see software since around twenty years...
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
#74I loved OneNote back in Uni, though I reached a point where I stopped taking notes (through the fault of the powerpoint teaching method, and my own laziness), and OneNote does seem to be a bit bloat-y when it comes to sync.
Stuff like EMACS org-mode (or, preferrably, some kind of Visual Studio Code equivalent) seems enticing, but I'm not sure how I could hook that into my phone in a way that isn't a terminal emulator.
Anyone found anything (app, service, or custom setup) that works for them?
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
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Evernote started the trend but Microsoft destroyed them in the same way they killed Netscape; OneNote is free beer and it's deeply integrated with the Office suite. I can scan a whiteboard using MS Lens on my phone and it's instantly available on my laptop in OneNote. Oh and I don't have to convince the SOE nazis to allow install.
I can do the same thing with Apple Notes. And I don’t have to pay Microsoft anything. And it’s all available to iWork. Notes even has document scanning. With Continuity Camera in Mojave, I can take a photo from my iPhone and instantly place it within a Pages document. For power Excel users, Numbers isn’t yet a replacement, but for everything else, the stuff that is built in to MacOS works great and is free while work…
I don't understand what this means. I use OneNote and have never paid Microsoft anything.
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
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This. All of what I'd ever want to do to a spreadsheet Google Sheets can do, and whatever the 'power' Excel user thinks is a good idea to use Excel for I can do far more easily in R.
You can. G'donya. If you print a report on the result - you're done. Bottoms up, mate. If you are collaborating - the issue isn't tools that you and I might know that may or may not be better than Excel (like R), it's that we've got to share our work with people who may or may not know those tools. I believe (personally) that Excel almost singularly is a tool that both the adept and novice can use together. And, you…
We can acknowledge the power of network effects while at the same time critiquing design. They both have utility, but they are entirely separate.
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
#77I'd love to have one notebook-type app that works between all my devices, or some combination that lets me have the same or similar content. I loved OneNote back in Uni, though I reached a point where I stopped taking notes (through the fault of the powerpoint teaching method, and my own laziness), and OneNote does seem to be a bit bloat-y when it comes to sync. Stuff like EMACS org-mode (or, preferrably, some kind o…
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
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I have the same feeling about this, and I've noticed that folks from the UK are more likely to use "bottoms-up" to mean both. I rarely hear it from US-born speakers. Has anyone else noticed this pattern?
Not a Brit myself, but I've noticed they tend to put an s on the end of a lot of things. e.g. "maths"
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
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Word, yes. Word is a turd. Word needs to die. Excel, however, is magic. Forget the nasty ribbon interface and the horrid MS window chrome, I'm just talking about what happens inside those cells. Say what you will about Microsoft as a company, about the fact that Excel is possibly over-used and that users should probably get a database. I don't care. Excel, at its core, is a magical product. Nothing else gets close to…
Why don't you like Word? I think it's still going to be the best for a while, if not only because it's massive. My CS professor says it's the biggest program ever written. It can so so much, like check for passive voice and more subtle grammar things. At the end of the day, the subscription model is off-putting, but "needs to die?" why?
Re: The new word processor wars: A fresh crop of productivity apps
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I'm sure you must have good reasons for setting something up like this and it must work for you, but to me it all sounds like mysterious incantations (why are you pressing the pause key to do something other than pause something?) and over-optimisation, rather than making things plain and simple. How many letters do you write a day for it to need to be optimised into single key shortcuts? My bottleneck is never…
> why are you pressing the pause key to do something other than pause something? because I do not use pause key for any purpose and single-key action are super-comfortable. For instance in my setup I open my mail dashboard (notmuch-emacs) with it's saved searches that I can open with a mouse click or a single key action again), tags etc simply hitting F6, shift+F6 open a mail compose buffer (window), F10 open firefox…