Why does the author seem to suggest that the nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
Perhaps nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
Tumblr’s anti-porn algorithm is flagging basically everything as NSFW
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Re: Tumblr’s anti-porn algorithm is flagging basically everything as NSFW
#12I'm not sure how this proves the algorithm is doing a poor job. Any NSFW classifier is going to have a non-trivial error rate. Tumblr hosts LOTS of images. So if you have a non-trivial error rate and multiply it by LOTS of images you are going to get LOTS of images being misclassified incorrectly. It's not surprising someone was able to write a story about a bunch of images being misclassified. This doesn't seem to t…
You have my upvote, but at the same time, Tumblr doesn't know this? What is their communication strategy for taking the wind off of people and articles making fun of them?
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#13Why does the author seem to suggest that the nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
Perhaps nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
The rest of the article seems to suggest that everything is affected, then she casually mentions that nazis are less affected.
Is she deliberately accusing tumblr of punishing everyone but nazis? Why is that not the headline then?
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#14I wouldn't label the algorithm as anti-porn. I'd label it "how to lose user base and drive the company to a hole" algorithm. It's not likely that it detects actual porn, it's basically failing miserably and the result is abandonment. That's what you get when you want to be PC and yet another "me too, I do cool stuff too" company. There are lessons to be learned here, and for that - thank you Tumblr :)
> That's what you get when you want to be PC
I don't understand this statement. Tumblr's user base, at least the portion who disagree with the site operators on this, are usually the ones accused of being “politically correct”?
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#15Why does the author seem to suggest that the nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
I'd argue that they are since searches for some "adult" terms are now censored but searches for nazi terms are not.
For example:
https://www.tumblr.com/search/breast/recent
https://www.tumblr.com/search/nsfw/recent
vs.
https://www.tumblr.com/search/1488/recent
https://www.tumblr.com/search/heil+hitler/recent
https://www.tumblr.com/search/sieg+heil/recent
edit: Image of other examples in case you don't want to actually go to tumblr's website.
Re: Tumblr’s anti-porn algorithm is flagging basically everything as NSFW
#16Why does the author seem to suggest that the nazis are less affected by this than pictures of furniture?
I'd argue that they are since searches for some "adult" terms are now censored but searches for nazi terms are not. For example: https://www.tumblr.com/search/breast/recent https://www.tumblr.com/search/nsfw/recent vs. https://www.tumblr.com/search/1488/recent https://www.tumblr.com/search/heil+hitler/recent https://www.tumblr.com/search/sieg+heil/recent edit: Image of other examples in case you don't want to actuall…
Tumblr also allows me to search for raygold and PTHC does that mean they approve of child pornography now?
I don't believe that the fact that they've restricted a pretty small set of porn-related keywords suggests that furniture is more likely to be caught by tumblrs filters than nazi content, which is the claim the article appears to make.
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#17Oath is desperate to put more ads on Tumblr, because they massively overpaid for it ($1 billion) and have been throwing money at it ever since (100s of millions). I guess because of the way the content is displayed they can't just segregate nsfw stuff into a demonetized stream, but if they think they can turn Tumblr into a mainstream site that shows family-centric ads, they clearly don't understand what they bought.
Corporate sensibilities and media...
This isn't a new issue. Media like to be edgy, contraversy provacative. Corporate sensibilities is allergic to scandal or contraversy, especially of the "public morals" type.
Re: Tumblr’s anti-porn algorithm is flagging basically everything as NSFW
#18I'm not sure how this proves the algorithm is doing a poor job. Any NSFW classifier is going to have a non-trivial error rate. Tumblr hosts LOTS of images. So if you have a non-trivial error rate and multiply it by LOTS of images you are going to get LOTS of images being misclassified incorrectly. It's not surprising someone was able to write a story about a bunch of images being misclassified. This doesn't seem to t…
If you want to take a fatalistic view of it... go a certain step further.
multiply it by LOTS of images you are going to get LOTS of images being misclassified and lots of complaints/mockery.
Also context, Tumblr users are being censored in ways they weren't previously and the censor is an error prone machine. This isn't the same thing as implementing nsfw filters to Google search.
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#19While Tumblr have every right to have whatever terms of service they like, this feels like a bait-and-switch to me. People and communities have become accustomed to allowing NSFW stuff on Tumblr, and if Tumblr had forbidden this from the get go these people who have set up somewhere else and not on Tumblr. What we need[1] is for social networks to be interoperable, with open data and protocols, so that a user can up…
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#20I wouldn't label the algorithm as anti-porn. I'd label it "how to lose user base and drive the company to a hole" algorithm. It's not likely that it detects actual porn, it's basically failing miserably and the result is abandonment. That's what you get when you want to be PC and yet another "me too, I do cool stuff too" company. There are lessons to be learned here, and for that - thank you Tumblr :)
> That's what you get when you want to be PC
I'd hardly consider this "trying to be PC".
https://i.imgur.com/cgGx4JR.png
This is more about bowing down to America's backwards views on sex and nudity, most likely in order to appease advertisers and/or Apple.