I asked my doctor relative about this once and IIRC they basically said because hospitals are not hotels - if you're inpatient in America you're pretty sick and more than likely need periodic monitoring for your condition. As soon as you're well enough to be sleeping for long periods of time without observation you'll get bounced.
Why Do Hospitals Hate Sleep So Much?
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#113I asked my doctor relative about this once and IIRC they basically said because hospitals are not hotels - if you're inpatient in America you're pretty sick and more than likely need periodic monitoring for your condition. As soon as you're well enough to be sleeping for long periods of time without observation you'll get bounced.
I was once in ICU. The cardiac monitor was beeping loudly whenever I was starting to sleep.
After the first few time woke me up in pain, I bent over and pushed the button to power off the cardiac monitor. Problem solved! I fully admitted all the risks - but there comes a time when too much is just too much.
I then had a great night of sleep :-)
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> In a solution like you described and I had in my head we'd need a agreed upon protocol between IV drip and monitoring device. Probably the same standard should be used by other, similar devices. If that doesn't happen we get vendor lock in. And a vendor lock-in is the goal of the vendor, both in medical and consumer space! Which is why such protocols rarely happen in either.
The medical space has a surprising number of widely used protocols. If you’ve ever gotten a CD with the raw data from some scan, it probably had a crappy proprietary viewer and the raw data. The raw data is almost invariably DICOM, and there are plenty of open-source viewers. I suspect there are strong economic factors here. When a hospital buys a $2M imaging machine, the vendor is making money on the machine, not on…
There are also a wide range of interpretations of a single protocol. See the horror of HL7.
In terms of DICOM viewers, I’ll be the one who mentions Horos. If it doesn’t do what you want with a DICOM or have a plug-in that does, you are doing something quite unusual. Before the psych department come at me - I work in radiology. Functional imaging is best served with other tools, and I don’t understand them.
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#115For both of our children, the hospital caused us more stress and discomfort than anything else. Newborn baby's finally asleep, wife is comfortable re pain, finally start to get some sleep. Then the nurse comes in at 2 am, writes her name on the board, asks us questions that they should have the answer to, then leaves. Nurse change 3x a day, baby doctor checking in to ask if were ok, mom doctor doing the same, house k…
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#116I'm lucky enough never to have been in hospital myself, but FWIW: I was recently on the jury in a coroner's inquest. A patient had died suddenly in his sleep in hospital. The solicitor whose agenda was to make the hospital look bad aimed to suggest that nurses should have been entering his room every 15 minutes to check his breathing, but all medical staff witnesses argued that sleep is too important to disrupt by en…
It's been awhile since I was in a hospital overnight but checking in on a (presumably) stable patient every 15 minutes is madness. You hear all sorts of crazy things during jury duty--I love it.
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#117My parents worked in Italian hospitals for 40 years and their experience is the exact opposite: patients ask for more care then it is necessary while they often complain when some test is mandatory.
If you leave them alone, they'll complain they're being abandoned and not taken care of, if you go for a blood test, they complain that it's not what they need.
Hospitals have rules to allow patient's recovery, they need to work for the general case, when you are 24 hours a day in a bed, you have plenty of time to sleep and usually the stress of the situation is enough to disrupt the patient's regular sleep cycle, so they don't sleep well anyway.
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#120For both of our children, the hospital caused us more stress and discomfort than anything else. Newborn baby's finally asleep, wife is comfortable re pain, finally start to get some sleep. Then the nurse comes in at 2 am, writes her name on the board, asks us questions that they should have the answer to, then leaves. Nurse change 3x a day, baby doctor checking in to ask if were ok, mom doctor doing the same, house k…
This was in Copenhagen, Denmark, so the entire stay was free. Sadly, the central hospital is removing this practice and kicking out patients after 4 hours.