Potential confounders abound. I'll wait for the randomized experiment...
A comparative study: tongue muscle performance in weightlifters and runners
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Re: A comparative study: tongue muscle performance in weightlifters and runners
#12Jokes aside, this is actually a very interesting study. We all know that physical characteristics are developed specifically by different activities (endurance for runners, strength for weightlifters). But I think most people would think this is due to local effects at the level of the muscle or specific neural circuits for different movements. This study suggests that a more general physical adaptation is at play, s…
It's not entirely true that the tongue isn't involved, because of breathing patterns. If differential tongue strength/endurance is just an incidental effect of different breathing patterns, I'm not sure there's much further to go with this.
Not just breathing patterns, but during the brief but intense period of a lift, the muscles of your tongue are engaged in a way they are not normally.
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#13It would be interesting to see how muscle development faired and progressed with musicians. Opera singers, specifically. I can't think of another subset of the population who have explicitly geared themselves toward using these small muscles in ways which require both strength and endurance. An opera singers' entire musculature is geared toward natural, acoustic amplification, and their use of the tongue to manipulate acoustics via vowel sounds would make an insightful corollary study.
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#14I am a runner and i play Hindustani flute.
I also use a technique called tonging. Good to know that i can perform a song which heavily depends on tonguing.
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#15Interesting results. Just last night I read an article about training for rock climbing that suggested cutting back on intensive cardio routines outside of climbing if you're having trouble making strength gains, and I went to sleep last night wondering how much merit there is to the claim, since I'm both a cyclist and a climber. Anecdotally, when cycling in the city it's usually shorter rides with high intensity hil…
You can still do cardio and maintain muscle mass. Sprinting is better than running miles and miles.
But, if you want to run marathons or triathlons, google "alex viada the Hybrid Athlete." He's a bodybuilder who maintains his muscle mass and strength while also doing triathlons. He has a background in biochemistry and works in pharmaceuticals. At least he used to. I'm not sure if he still does.
Re: A comparative study: tongue muscle performance in weightlifters and runners
#16Interesting results. Just last night I read an article about training for rock climbing that suggested cutting back on intensive cardio routines outside of climbing if you're having trouble making strength gains, and I went to sleep last night wondering how much merit there is to the claim, since I'm both a cyclist and a climber. Anecdotally, when cycling in the city it's usually shorter rides with high intensity hil…
Further off topic: high intensity workouts also have the benefit of being short and therefore easier to do after work :)
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A great workout that only requires an exercise bike is:
- 4-5min of biking, sprinting for 30sec every minute.
- no break, 20 push-ups, 20 squats, 20 crunches
- ~1min break, repeat the above two more times
The result should be a ~20min strength building exercise that is easy on the joints and gets a nice heartrate/endorphin spike.
Re: A comparative study: tongue muscle performance in weightlifters and runners
#17Interesting results. Just last night I read an article about training for rock climbing that suggested cutting back on intensive cardio routines outside of climbing if you're having trouble making strength gains, and I went to sleep last night wondering how much merit there is to the claim, since I'm both a cyclist and a climber. Anecdotally, when cycling in the city it's usually shorter rides with high intensity hil…
You can still do cardio and maintain muscle mass. Sprinting is better than running miles and miles. But, if you want to run marathons or triathlons, google "alex viada the Hybrid Athlete." He's a bodybuilder who maintains his muscle mass and strength while also doing triathlons. He has a background in biochemistry and works in pharmaceuticals. At least he used to. I'm not sure if he still does.
Given his background in body building and pharma, I would bet he is using PEDs to be able to be a hybrid athlete.
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#19Cue Mark Abrahams: "The medicine priiize. . . "
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#20Interesting results. Just last night I read an article about training for rock climbing that suggested cutting back on intensive cardio routines outside of climbing if you're having trouble making strength gains, and I went to sleep last night wondering how much merit there is to the claim, since I'm both a cyclist and a climber. Anecdotally, when cycling in the city it's usually shorter rides with high intensity hil…
Further off topic: high intensity workouts also have the benefit of being short and therefore easier to do after work :) --- A great workout that only requires an exercise bike is: - 4-5min of biking, sprinting for 30sec every minute. - no break, 20 push-ups, 20 squats, 20 crunches - ~1min break, repeat the above two more times The result should be a ~20min strength building exercise that is easy on the joints and ge…
The body-weight push-ups and squat are only a very light strength building exercise. Sadly, you'll still be above average in fitness if you do this workout.