Time to make another contribution to Mozilla. I have not been using Firefox on my MacBook or iPad, but I recently bought a Linux laptop and as an experiment I am only using Firefox. Nice experience. I might install Chrome just for accessing Google properties because I like to isolate interactions with Google, but that is in no way in criticism of Firefox.
Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
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This. I use FF for normal browsing and Chrome for Google based stuff that requires an account, like Gmail, YouTube, Docs, etc. Besides not having ANY performance issues with FF I think it is good practice to separate most of your accounts from normal surfing.
Just today I ran into a weird bug in Google Drive's document editor where selecting 'paste without formatting' from the context menu resulted in a pop-up saying 'These actions are unavailable via the Edit menu, but you can still use: Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Ctrl+X'. In Chrome: no problem at all.
This is not a weird bug. It’s Google tailoring their products for their own browser and ignoring the others (Safari has the same “issue”). It’s their prerogative to do so, but I think they’re risking getting hit by antitrust for these kinds of antics in the future.
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#563Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you haven't used Chrome, no wonder you haven't noticed Firefox sucking. But a side-to-side speed and responsiveness comparison of Chrome and Firefox is unfair even today.
I have used Chrome and Firefox side-by-side, consistently since Chrome's original release. I have used Netscape and Internet Explorer since before both existed. I have performance gaming rigs of all generations, and I develop software. I have multiple generations of Apple machines as well. I run Windows and Linux. Firefox doesn't suck, and matches Chrome. But there's no accounting for user behavior. I have seen user…
All the users I forced to use Firefox, decided that Chrome was faster, and they were more than 100s of them.
( And as a user I knew that too. I just wanted to support Firefox. )
So saying Firefox Doesn't suck may be partially right. As we will have to define "suck" first. But saying it is as fast as Chrome during Firefox 4 and early Chrome era is just the same as saying earth is flat.
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#564Why am I seeing 10% for Firefox while the title says "below 9%"?
Is it an incorrect title?
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#565I wonder what the numbers would be if FF forks were included. I see Seamonkey in the list, but no Waterfox or Pale Moon, etc. Surely wouldn't be any great number, but is curious the forks are not listed.
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#566Time to make another contribution to Mozilla. I have not been using Firefox on my MacBook or iPad, but I recently bought a Linux laptop and as an experiment I am only using Firefox. Nice experience. I might install Chrome just for accessing Google properties because I like to isolate interactions with Google, but that is in no way in criticism of Firefox.
You don't need to install Chrome to isolate Google's properties.
Firefox can do that automatically:
1. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
2. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai...
3. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
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> Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to click. Nope, you can just right-click the site's own search bar, which is how I've been doing it forever.
I think that adds it as a bookmark which is not the same thing as an OpenSearch provider because it doesn’t give you the blue highlight when searching with it. Actually this is exactly what lorenzhs said, and it is my experience too. I know this because I spent half an hour trying to get a “blue search” for BBFC.
Yup that’s what I meant. The right click -> add as search engine creates a bookmark which doesn’t get the blue highlight when using it. That distinction just doesn’t make sense to me.
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#568Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…
Firefox has improved tremendously. But I guess some people are still missing their favorite features. For me it's pinch zooming. I've been waiting for it for ages. It's the last issue keeping me from leaving Chrome. Just tried newest Firefox on macOS and Windows 10, and sadly it still didn't work on either. This feature is great for hiding flashing sidebars and distracting navigation bars. And of course zooming in oc…
For me it's instant and seamless translations in Chrome.
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#569Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…
The day Firefox integrates a seamless translation solution (Bing/Google/anything) is the day I get rid of Chrome from all my devices.
Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%
#570Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Complaining about "the effort" just reinforces the double-standard. Another point of view is that this is just the reality. Loads of people are on gmail, and migrating isn't always simple. Pretending it is doesn't make it so, and pointing out that one never should have done it in the first place is a moot point.
As someone with a domain at home and a working email server, I'm still stuck with Gmail as I don't have time to make sure my setup is resilient enough to base my daily emails on... It's a sad world and we're a very geeky crowd.
> As someone with a domain at home and a working email server
Maintaining your own email server is crazy and not feasible unless you're passionate about email servers.
It's also a false dichotomy. Nobody with any experience and common sense suggests that you should install your own email server. Use FastMail, use Protonmail, use Office 365, heck, use Google's G Suite.
Most such services have import tools that work and the option to work with forwarded emails and external SMTP servers, so migration can be smooth.
Seeing software developers complaining about migration costs makes absolutely no sense.
Just yesterday I migrated a GSuite account to FastMail. I just changed the DNS records and imported the email via FastMail's import tool, which was automatic. And with a @gmail.com address you can just work with forwarding until everybody knows of your new address.
I migrated email addresses several times, including from my old @gmail.com address which now no longer exists. It wasn't a tragedy.