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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#452
Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to restart FF under ~3 seconds.

I have read comments in this thread suggesting that FF's performance is not that snappy but I cannot seem to notice any difference. Maybe my dev senses are not that strong ... maybe the benchmarks do show a difference but I have never felt FF to be any less performant than Chrome.

I am tired of listening to people screaming their lungs out about privacy when their actions don't reflect their opinions.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#453

Firefox is still slow on a very beefy Win10 PC and a MacBook Pro 2015, if you have more than 7-8 tabs open. I keep giving Firefox a chance but not much is changing. Not sure if the rewrite in Rust was worth it.

To clarify: my Win10 PC has a 2nd-gen i7 CPU and it has been very heavily hit by the dozens of Spectre and Meltdown fixes. Compared to a year ago, it feels like it's running twice as slow. :(

Many apps are not affected but Firefox definitely is. It starts hiccuping with only several tabs open while Chrome is working just fine.

The PC has 32GB of RAM so it's definitely not memory.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#454
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If you haven't used Chrome, no wonder you haven't noticed Firefox sucking. But a side-to-side speed and responsiveness comparison of Chrome and Firefox is unfair even today.

I have used Chrome and Firefox side-by-side, consistently since Chrome's original release. I have used Netscape and Internet Explorer since before both existed. I have performance gaming rigs of all generations, and I develop software. I have multiple generations of Apple machines as well. I run Windows and Linux. Firefox doesn't suck, and matches Chrome. But there's no accounting for user behavior. I have seen user…

So...what are you trying to say here? That if you don't feel comfortable with a browser, you are the issue? That if you have different use-cases and behavior, you are the issue? Each browser has different look and feel and is unique in its own way, even if some differences are tiny.

And, yeah, if Mozzila likes dropping numbers, nothing has to change.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#455

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Why not just configure your server or a proxy to add the necessary headers that unlock CORS restrictions.

Because having code that behaves differently on development and production is never a solution, it's a workaround. Having bugs that can't be reproduced locally is the worst thing that can happen to a developer. So yeah, you can _just_ put environment settings if you have no other possible way, but you should really avoid it if there is any other one (like using chrome with CORS disabled, here).

Disabling CORS in your browser is not representative of production. Serving CORS headers is.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#457
post #452

Reading this breaks my heart. I have been a Firefox user for almost a decade now and I have good and bad memories with it. Since Quantum release my experience with FF has been nothing but exceptional. On a general day I have around ~15 pinned tabs and more than 50 other tabs open and FF handles it like a breeze. The memory usage is good given the fact that my workload is heavy. On a dual-core machine, I am able to re…

Agreed. I'm on nightly and it has been stable - even with WR turned on. I've been pushing my family and friends to use FF - but a lot of them are Chrome loyalists. Still - one must persist.

I'd rather not have a world where only chrome and chrome clones exist - and I certainly don't appreciate that Chrome wants me to log in every time I use the browser (and getting more and more insistent at that lately from what I hear)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#458

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I'd support it if it felt like a first-class citizen on macOS. It's ironic that everyone decries Electron for not being native, then says you should use Firefox when it violates so much about the platform that it's not even funny. A bug about overflow scrolling (the default bouncing when you scroll over in macOS) has been open for years. It doesn't fit in.

It's odd that firefox doesn't use the osx certificate store

It's a matter of opinion at this stage. I trust Mozilla more than say... Lenovo or Dell that both shipped rogue certificates

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#459
Firefox keeps getting faster and faster. (Firefox dev tools are however terrible slow, so I use Chromium for the dev tools). I'm afraid that if Chromium get 99+ market share the community will become lazy and it will get slower and slower as new features are bolted on and we will get "designed by committee" issues.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#460

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I donated to the Mozilla Foundation today when I heard about this trend coupled with the rumor of Edge's sunsetting. Even if the money is simply spent on marketing, I think that could be a good thing.

Marketing should not be underestimated.

I actually tried switching. I found Firefox to be still slower than Chrome. At least on Google sites it may not be their fault but knowing where to put the blame doesn't help me on my end. Marketing doesn't seem like the likely fix.
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