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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by yorwba »

lorenzhs wrote: post #319
Dunedan wrote: post #300

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In Firefox you can add a bookmark and set a keyword for that bookmark. If the URL of the bookmark contains "%s", it'll get replaced by everything you type in the URL bar after the keyword. For example I have a bookmark for Wikipedia with the keyword "wp". So when I type "wp Y Combinator" I end up on the Wikipedia page about Y Combinator. I really enjoy this feature and even catch myself regularly trying to use it on…

Yeah, but the indicator that you’re using such a bookmark when typing “wp Foo” in the address bar is really poor. When you use the OpenSearch search engine integration you can also set a keyword but it’s highlighted properly. Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to cl…

> Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to click.

Nope, you can just right-click the site's own search bar, which is how I've been doing it forever.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by sveme »

watt wrote: post #338
feanaro wrote: post #320

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> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while. This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

When you log out, Firefox will block it and warn you that you are about to close number of tabs. When you select "OK", your tabs are gone. But Chrome will quietly exit, and when you start it next time, will offer to restore the tabs that were open last time. Chrome approach wins, hands down.

That's a setting in both browsers. Default is "Start with Startpage or empty page" in both browsers as well. You can always select "Restore last session" in both browsers.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by blauditore »

watt wrote: post #338
feanaro wrote: post #320

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> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while. This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

When you log out, Firefox will block it and warn you that you are about to close number of tabs. When you select "OK", your tabs are gone. But Chrome will quietly exit, and when you start it next time, will offer to restore the tabs that were open last time. Chrome approach wins, hands down.

Both browsers have this configurable in settings. So they just use different defaults, which depends on personal preference.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by jlelse »

Dunedan wrote: post #300
11235813213455 wrote: post #292

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What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

In Firefox you can add a bookmark and set a keyword for that bookmark. If the URL of the bookmark contains "%s", it'll get replaced by everything you type in the URL bar after the keyword. For example I have a bookmark for Wikipedia with the keyword "wp". So when I type "wp Y Combinator" I end up on the Wikipedia page about Y Combinator. I really enjoy this feature and even catch myself regularly trying to use it on…

Thanks for mentioning this feature, I didn't know about it before. Really like it!

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by arkh »

eksemplar wrote: post #270
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

I think it's more like a new generation of people started using Mac OS on which I heard Firefox suck. So being already in a walled garden environment they did not care about entering Google's.

Firefox was always good on other OS. And you got noscript there with full access to block everything Chrome does not want you to block.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by rb666 »

jhasse wrote: post #304
ripdog wrote: post #251

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Financially, Mozilla is currently entirely dependent on a search contract with Google, their mortal enemy. They obviously see that this relationship is extremely risky, especially as Firefox becomes less popular and thus their userbase less valuable to Google. As such, they're trying to diversify their revenue stream. Do you have any better solutions? Browsers are absurdly expensive to develop, by the way.

Become more popular by improving the product?

Funded by? you?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by feanaro »

pmoriarty wrote: post #244
shittyadmin wrote: post #61

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I miss the old XUL extensions, way better tab extensions and stuff like DownThemAll was amazing. Modernly Firefox can't be customized much more than chrome - extreme hacks are needed: https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/wiki/Code-snippets-fo...

The XUL extension I miss most is Pentadactyl. Tridactyl is a pale imitation, and still immature. Qutebrowser has potential, but still lacks critical extensions like uMatrix and uBlock Origin.

Tridactyl is pretty nice these days and getting improved continually. Which features are you missing?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by vorticalbox »

AzMoo_ wrote: post #260
reaperducer wrote: post #253

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Because in real companies the IT department needs a real good reason, or a large number of devs that need it, to reconfigure a server that way. If you're not a lone wolf, or working in the SV bubble, the IT and security departments are going to tell you to go pound sand.

Not really. In lots of relatively large companies there is a good relationship between infrastructure, development and security teams and they will work to find a solution that works for everybody.

This is how it works at my work.

CORS is allowed while running locally and then set while running in development and finally production.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by oelmekki »

vorticalbox wrote: post #309
cjcampbell wrote: post #140

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This can be helpful in development scenarios. I’m supporting a team that uses localstack to support local development against some AWS services. Unfortunately, the CORS settings for localstack break the development environment. With Chrome allowing them to disable from the command-line, I can provide a shortcut to launch with degraded security, no plugins, no user settings, etc. My only wish is that Chrome would make…

You should be setting your server to set cors to allow all not disabling it in your browser. This is what we do while running docker for local development with node.

At the very least, CORS should be disabled for localhost. I build interfaces using create-react-app, which launches a dev server on localhost:3000 (useful for things like live reload), making requests on a go api on localhost:5000. On production, both are on :80 and the backend serves frontend production files. This is annoying to alter the application code just to handle dev environment (although, this already happen in many other places, so it's not critical).
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