Firefox desktop market share now below 9% • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by PurpleRamen » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:17 AM UTC

burtonator wrote: post #64

We just shipped a chrome extension for Polar... I did a big analysis of the distribution of extensions on Firefox vs Chrome. You could expect Firefox to be maybe 1/3rd that of Chrome. Nope... it's 1/40th.... So 40x more people use the same extension on Chrome vs Firefox. I'm not sure why this is... it might be that Chrome users adopt extensions more readily than Firefox users? I think there's a lesson here on long te…

I don't see your your extension in the mozilla addon-store. How do except them to use sonething that they can't even find?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by OpenBSD-reich2 » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:19 AM UTC

Should have put more money toward building a better more modular browser than toward diversity programs. This is the natural result of enterprise SocJus. Google will go this way too in five to ten years.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by PurpleRamen » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:20 AM UTC

baby wrote: post #39

And yet, it is one of the only usable browser for most users thanks to the Tree Style Tabs extension. I still don't understand how people can browse the web with Chrome :|

With how bug-infested TST is now, this is not a strong reason anymore. Also TST has not many users anyway. Seems it's something around 115k, so majority can live well without it.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by jhasse » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:21 AM UTC

ripdog wrote: post #251

judge2020 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As well as the time to code in product placements https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15956325

Financially, Mozilla is currently entirely dependent on a search contract with Google, their mortal enemy. They obviously see that this relationship is extremely risky, especially as Firefox becomes less popular and thus their userbase less valuable to Google. As such, they're trying to diversify their revenue stream. Do you have any better solutions? Browsers are absurdly expensive to develop, by the way.

Become more popular by improving the product?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:24 AM UTC

lisper wrote: post #296

11235813213455 wrote: post #292

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What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

Seriously? You would sell your soul to the devil to save typing four extra characters?

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by AlmaElma » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:25 AM UTC

eksemplar wrote: post #270

bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

I'd love to use Safari privately but uBlock Origin is a mess right now (lots of UI bugs) and won't work at all soon, so FF it is for me.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by PurpleRamen » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:25 AM UTC

Causality1 wrote: post #19

Dropping support for legacy extensions absolutely gutted what made Firefox different from every other browser. I'll use Firefox 56 and NoScript until the end of time before I use a browser with tabs above the address bar.

Not enough people are using addons to be such significant. It seems more that firefox had a slight growth last year because of quantum, but market grew faster, while some of that growth inflated again.

Usernumbers went something like 250->300->275 Million. Seems they are somewhat stable in numbers.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by ngokevin » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:26 AM UTC

qwerty456127 wrote: post #238

ngokevin wrote: post #81

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It is pretty fast for me. Although there is some vested interest, although indirectly. Decisions are still tied to money, which is why Google has traditionally been the default search engine in Firefox.

> Google has traditionally been the default search engine in Firefox. There is little if anything wrong in tracking people who don't care about being tracked, those who do can easily switch the search engine to startpage.com, duckduckgo.com, Searx, Seeks or whatever.

Agree. Though default options hold great power, Chrome users could also navigate to DDG. Also hard to advertise themselves as the user champion of privacy going up against Google, and then route everyone to Google, while pocketing their money. I think it's okay to take their money but seems hypocritical.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by vorticalbox » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:27 AM UTC

cjcampbell wrote: post #140

sombremesa wrote: post #96

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I love using Firefox as my daily driver, and I can always pop open chrome if I really have to. What kind of life do you lead where your browser needs to have CORS constantly disabled?

This can be helpful in development scenarios. I’m supporting a team that uses localstack to support local development against some AWS services. Unfortunately, the CORS settings for localstack break the development environment. With Chrome allowing them to disable from the command-line, I can provide a shortcut to launch with degraded security, no plugins, no user settings, etc. My only wish is that Chrome would make…

You should be setting your server to set cors to allow all not disabling it in your browser.

This is what we do while running docker for local development with node.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by jhasse » Tue, Dec 04, 2018, 7:27 AM UTC

kumarharsh wrote: post #212

kbd wrote: post #201

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It wasn't about Pocket itself but that Firefox was rudely using notifications to advertise to me. So I went back to Chrome, which has never done anything like that.

Lol, you mean apart from prodding you on every single Google site to "switch to a better browser" or the websites which misleadingly show the "Sign in" button with your name already filled in(!!)

That isn't done by Chrome.