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Post by village-idiot »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #418
village-idiot wrote: post #400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean this question without any malice or partisanship, because I’m genuinely curious. What’s it feel like to watch those in your political in group seemingly lose their minds? Has it affected your opinions or relationships with fellow conservatives?

No, if anything it's brought us together. What's been hard is losing leftie friends for no reason. I don't talk about politics, but if they find out I went to a Trump rally (instagram pics) suddenly we can't be friends. It's weird. I lived in San Francisco 20 years ago and had rabidly leftie friends whom I very much enjoyed sparring with over drinks, however something has changed and we can't even make small talk any…

The sign of our polarized times.

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Post by doodliego »

barry-cotter wrote: post #384
jacquesm wrote: post #290

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These online groups have the same advantage that many other cults have over their victims: they can re-try until they find enough buttons to press that work to bring out the vulnerable people. It's like negotiating against a much more experienced adversary: you're going to lose. The only way to deal with that stuff is not to get exposed to it in the first place. Something similar happens with advertising, there too t…

This is bull. I have had ample exposure to far right and far left groups and their philosophy as well as many varieties of weird deviant porn and a plethora of other subcultures the wider world would look askance at. I fall pretty squarely within normal. Online subcultures can’t target people because online subcultures don’t have memories, minds or goals. They are distributed patterns of behaviour, beliefs and norms,…

Your sample size of one is incredibly convincing. /s

People who are isolated, bullied, low self-esteem, shut-ins, suffering mental illnesses, or a host of other factors can and do fall into echo chambers of radicalization and extremism. You see the results in the news every day. Of course forms of it exist, like what happened to op's daughter.

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Post by curuinor »

michaelchisari wrote: post #84
x0x0 wrote: post #71

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The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. Think of tumblr as nothing but a way to get pageviews for Cheerios and Volvo ads. It explains their decisions perfectly.

Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution. I've always said that cheap is better than free. If all services like Tumblr had debuted at a nominal $0.25 or $0.50 a month and that had become normalized as a way to support the platform without mining data or being at the whims of advertisers, the internet might be in a better place. Instea…

you can see something awful and metafilter as examples. they're miniscule and dying now, but somehow despite being the bonafide scum of the internet 2000-2010, something awful has chilled out (and metafilter was always pretty chill)

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Post by reaperducer »

Hoasi wrote: post #340
michaelchisari wrote: post #84

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Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution. I've always said that cheap is better than free. If all services like Tumblr had debuted at a nominal $0.25 or $0.50 a month and that had become normalized as a way to support the platform without mining data or being at the whims of advertisers, the internet might be in a better place. Instea…

> Every day results in another example of why free platforms supported by advertising might not be viable a long term solution. Not just free platforms. No publication supported by advertising is a viable long-term solution let alone a desirable one. Advertising-based publishing was never a good idea. The current state of the press is a good example of that too. Unfortunately, there are not that many viable alternati…

No publication supported by advertising is a viable long-term solution

Define what you mean by “long-term.”

America has a number of ad-supported publications that have been publishing for over 250 years. There are probably older ones in Europe and elsewhere.

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Post by barry-cotter »

doodliego wrote: post #432
barry-cotter wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is bull. I have had ample exposure to far right and far left groups and their philosophy as well as many varieties of weird deviant porn and a plethora of other subcultures the wider world would look askance at. I fall pretty squarely within normal. Online subcultures can’t target people because online subcultures don’t have memories, minds or goals. They are distributed patterns of behaviour, beliefs and norms,…

Your sample size of one is incredibly convincing. /s People who are isolated, bullied, low self-esteem, shut-ins, suffering mental illnesses, or a host of other factors can and do fall into echo chambers of radicalization and extremism. You see the results in the news every day. Of course forms of it exist, like what happened to op's daughter.

I don’t have a sample size of one. I have the evidence of my eyes. Incredibly successful social movements look like the Mormons or Corbyn’s Labour, not some master brain washers who can take mentally healthy people and make them join a cult or other social movement and never leave. The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints is the most successful new religion of the past two centuries, possibly excluding the Baha’i. It has some weird and crazy beliefs and demands a level of commitment and community involvement that most Europeans or Americans would balk at and the average missionary spends two years trying to convert people. And most of them get nothing. I don’t even live in America and I know two ex-Mormons and one who based on his lifestyle will soon be an ex-Mormon. I hope I don’t need to convince you that Corbynism has been very successful indeed. It took over the main opposition party in the U.K. Much as I’m impressed by their fervour and convenient as they’ve made becoming a member of the Labour Party most of these people will not be Labour Party members in ten years, possibly five. They’ll get older and more cynical and age out of thinking they can make a difference in politics, Corbin will get into government and disappoint them, they won’t have enough cash to renew their membership. And that’s a successful political movement!

People aren’t brain washed. They make choices, sometimes shitty self destructive choices, occasionally deluded ones. But they are making choices.

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Post by fl0wenol »

debaserab2 wrote: post #216
nickthegreek wrote: post #15

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Agreed. So many artists, photographers and models used tumblr to showcase their work. It was also easy to link your blog to a .com with little to no webdev experience. The only other social media network out there with a following that allows near the same level of expression is twitter and I have already seen posts from artists directing their followers there. But twitter is no real substitute to what tumblr offered…

I'd say instagram is the other big one for artists, not twitter. Instagram has all the functionality of tumblr with even more accessibility.

I hope not... Instagram has terrible usability if you don't have a Facebook account and/or don't want to install the app on mobile. Tumblr was at least tolerable in that scenario.

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Post by Grue3 »

urda wrote: post #282
Grue3 wrote: post #196

The real culprit needs to be called out here. Fuck apple and their puritanical crusade against porn. Anyone who appreciates NSFW content needs to boycott them.

Apple pulled the app after they had found child pornography on the platform, not because it has porn. Otherwise how would the suite of reddit apps (another social site with plenty of porn) exist within the Apple ecosystem? Clearly Tumblr took the nuclear option and just banned everything instead, again not Apple. Please read up on the situation more before continuing.

>Apple pulled the app after they had found child pornography on the platform, not because it has porn.

They wouldn't let the app back into the app store unless they get rid of all porn. There's no reason why they would piss of most of their userbase otherwise. "Child pornography" is the classic "think of the children" misdirection, it has always been against the site rules, and the law.

>How would the suite of reddit apps (another social site with plenty of porn) exist within the Apple ecosystem?

They wouldn't for much longer. This is just the beginning.

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Post by ssnistfajen »

sparkie wrote: post #375
scelerat wrote: post #374

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> but /r/politics is pretty much exactly what became of Digg Could you say some more about what you mean by that?

A filtered news feed of the political left. The difference is /r/politics has a whitelist of "acceptable" domains. Essentially anything left of Lenin is OK, and anything else is deemed "far right". The bury brigades still exist in the comments.

Only a person standing on the far right spectrum would see everything left of them as "left of Lenin".

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Post by yellowbuilding »

nickthegreek wrote: post #15
pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

Agreed. So many artists, photographers and models used tumblr to showcase their work. It was also easy to link your blog to a .com with little to no webdev experience. The only other social media network out there with a following that allows near the same level of expression is twitter and I have already seen posts from artists directing their followers there. But twitter is no real substitute to what tumblr offered…

As a photographer who does not care much for using nudity in my photos, this is no problem to me. But yeah, I think you’re right.
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