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Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by zapzupnz »

Despegar wrote: post #18
mossplix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So webkit is not monoculture? Are you forgetting about konqueror?

How could it be a monoculture with 14% market share? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Why are you citing Safari's 14% market share when the person to whom you responded was stating that if it's true that Edge will become Chromium-based, then browsers running on Chromium will represent something like 66% of the world's web engine share. Heck, it's already 59%, over half. With Opera, Vivaldi, and Edge (or whatever Anaheim will become), we're talking two thirds of all browsers being based on one engine.

That's the monoculture.

Edit: didn't realise you were responding to someone refuting what you had said, haha. so basically we agree, I just thought you were someone else.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by nerdbaggy »

mcny wrote: post #9
vtesucks wrote: post #6

On the one hand developers have one less engine to worry about. On the other if it becomes a chromium monoculture then Firefox loses.

On the front page, I saw another headline that said Firefox desktop market share is below nine percent.

And nobody knows how that’s calculated. If the implementation is done via JS we can assume a good portion of all the browsers usage % is incorrect.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by cwyers »

I don't know, I am typing this post on Edge, and HTML rendering is way down on my list of complaints about it. Is switching to Chromium going to fix the lack of a "Paste As Plain Text" option, for instance? (Not the biggest issue, just the one that's freshest in my mind.) And I hope that whatever they do retains their focus on not burning battery, which is a big reason I use Edge as much as I do.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

If Microsoft really does this and makes the Chromium based browser the default in Windows, what is the value proposition of installing Chrome? Presumably all the websites will work exactly as they do in Chrome and it will be no faster or slower?

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by naner »

c-smile wrote: post #19

That's just the disaster. And the end of W3C standard development process. AFAIR it should be 3 independent implementations of the feature in order for Draft to reach Recommendation status. So technically all that means that web standards will be written by WebKit team alone. Sic transit Gloria mundi, sigh.

Fair concern. On the other hand nobody uses Edge on Windows 10, do they? In my limited experience users seem to still use IE or go to Chrome or Firefox.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by Despegar »

zapzupnz wrote: post #21
Despegar wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could it be a monoculture with 14% market share? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Why are you citing Safari's 14% market share when the person to whom you responded was stating that if it's true that Edge will become Chromium-based, then browsers running on Chromium will represent something like 66% of the world's web engine share. Heck, it's already 59%, over half. With Opera, Vivaldi, and Edge (or whatever Anaheim will become), we're talking two thirds of all browsers being based on one engine.…

I'm saying that WebKit can't be a monoculture because Safari only has 14% market share. It doesn't matter if other devices and browsers that no one actually uses are WebKit.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by talawahdotnet »

Interesting, but what I really, really want them to do is EOL IE 11 so that the web can move forward without feeling guilty about the X% of users still on it. IE 11 has unfortunately become the new IE 6.

As it is right now I believe the IE 11 EOL is tied to the Windows 10 EOL...which is not happening anytime soon. Many frameworks are dropping support for it anyway so I guess it will end up being defacto desupported.

Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

Despegar wrote: post #27
zapzupnz wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you citing Safari's 14% market share when the person to whom you responded was stating that if it's true that Edge will become Chromium-based, then browsers running on Chromium will represent something like 66% of the world's web engine share. Heck, it's already 59%, over half. With Opera, Vivaldi, and Edge (or whatever Anaheim will become), we're talking two thirds of all browsers being based on one engine.…

I'm saying that WebKit can't be a monoculture because Safari only has 14% market share. It doesn't matter if other devices and browsers that no one actually uses are WebKit.

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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10

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Post by c-smile »

c-smile wrote: post #19

That's just the disaster. And the end of W3C standard development process. AFAIR it should be 3 independent implementations of the feature in order for Draft to reach Recommendation status. So technically all that means that web standards will be written by WebKit team alone. Sic transit Gloria mundi, sigh.

Started seriously thinking about converting Sciter to full scale web browser.

Anyone is willing to invest in that?

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