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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by judge2020 »

chmln wrote: post #77
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

Sorry but the devtools can't even inspect my websocket API frames. The websocket inspector was a feature request filed 6 years ago . [1] Maybe Firefox devs didn't have time for it. But somehow they got all the time in the world to add clickbait Pocket articles on my new tab page. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885508

As well as the time to code in product placements https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15956325

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Mister_Snuggles »

seandavidfisher wrote: post #124
atombender wrote: post #35

I'd like to use Firefox. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, smoother browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly, too. On macOS, it feels chunkier and less natively integrated. Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the…

Not to mention the inability to integrate with iCloud Keychain. I have over 500 passwords that work across every app on my phone, my computer, and tablet. That’s a big switching cost for me. Add to that the performance/stuttering that I still seem to get even with Quantum’s improvement, and I can’t see myself switching from Safari anytime soon.

While switching will still be a pain, have you considered a 3rd-party password manager?

I'm using Enpass which works with the three major browsers, has apps for iOS and Android, and has desktop apps for Mac, Windows, and Linux. The best part about it, in my opinion, is that their syncing backend lets you choose which cloud provider you want to sync with (they support six or seven different ones), including a generic WebDAV/ownCloud one if you want to host your own.

It's not perfect, but having something cross-platform and cross-browser has a lot of appeal.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by baby »

mkl wrote: post #101
baby wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

Session Buddy and The Great Suspender. I have ~800 tabs open in Chrome right now on this PC. I haven't used Tree Style Tab, but Chrome's tab-shrinking is actually better for lots of tabs (up to a point) than Firefox's tab-scrolling. I have yet to try tab suspension extensions in Firefox, so there may be a workflow that works for me there (Chrome is not ideal).

You should tree style tabs. It changes your life.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by baby »

spurgu wrote: post #56
baby wrote: post #42

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I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

Not OP, but I currently have around 80 tabs open spread/organized over 6 different windows (and two different Chrome profiles). And a bunch more "snoozing" with OneTab.

You should probably give tree style tabs a try

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by keithnz »

bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I like firefox, and use it a lot at work as generally my main browser with DDG as the , but I end up going back to chrome quite a bit

Things that bug me - For some reason often when I have quite a few tabs, open link in new tab stops working, the tab appears then disappears instantly, oddly if I use Vimium to open the tab in a new link it works. Mostly I use Vimium so this is not too much of a problem

- Copy pasting of formatted html is worse than Chrome.

- Confluence runs like a pig on Firefox for some reason, completely unusable on some pages, not strictly a FF problem, but is problematic.

- Just something about the aesthetics that is somehow "off"

On the positive

- I like the developer tools

- "Column select" out of the box just works

- scrolling tab bar instead of teeny tiny tabs where you can't see anything is good

- I feel better that I'm hopefully leaking less data, not that I can really verify that, but I generally believe I should be better protected than if I was using chrome

Overall, while there is cool things about FF, I feel I'm using it not because its the better browser, but some vauge idea I'm helping browser diversity.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by dguo »

ancorevard wrote: post #62

Why is it that not more people use Safari? On a MacBook Pro it is not only faster but your battery life lasts noticeable longer. Not to mention the Safari engineers' stand on privacy as compared to Google Chrome...

I used Safari as my primary browser for about a year, mainly because it was easier on the battery. I gave up on it because:

1. I kept running into Safari-only issues on websites. The most memorable one was on the American Express website. I couldn't switch between cards because the selection widget was broken on Safari.

2. The marketplace for Safari extensions is anemic, a problem which is only going to get worse[1] as legacy extensions are about to be totally deprecated[2]. Firefox did the same thing, but at least they moved to the WebExtension API. Safari App Extensions are very limited in what they can do.

3. Safari's developer tools were not as good as Chrome's or Firefox's.

[1]: https://redditenhancementsuite.com/safari/

[2]: https://9to5mac.com/2018/06/09/safari-12-extensions-more/

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by chipperyman573 »

cjcampbell wrote: post #140
sombremesa wrote: post #96

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I love using Firefox as my daily driver, and I can always pop open chrome if I really have to. What kind of life do you lead where your browser needs to have CORS constantly disabled?

This can be helpful in development scenarios. I’m supporting a team that uses localstack to support local development against some AWS services. Unfortunately, the CORS settings for localstack break the development environment. With Chrome allowing them to disable from the command-line, I can provide a shortcut to launch with degraded security, no plugins, no user settings, etc. My only wish is that Chrome would make…

>My only wish is that Chrome would make it more obvious that it’s running with these protections disabled.

I know this is beginning to become off-topic, but why? Presumably, if you're using a flag that has to be run from the command-line, you're either doing it on purpose or using hardware you don't own (and a keylogger is a much greater risk than anything else at that point)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by jiveturkey »

Reason077 wrote: post #105
kovrik wrote: post #54

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I really want to use Safari, but for me the deal breaker is the fact that Safari doesn't seem to block pop-ups properly. Yes, they've changed it in the latest version. I have Block and Notify option selected in Privacy tab. But many popups still go through -- sometimes they open in a new tab, sometimes in a new window. Is there a way to fix that? Also, is there a Tree Style Tab alternative for Safari?

The worst thing about Safari is the “Do you want to receive notifications from this website?” pop-up that appears every time you hit some random notification-supporting website for the first time. There has got to be a better way to implement notification subscriptions than this annoying pop-up.

chrome and FF also do this. all 3 have an option to disable the prompt (and not accept notifications).
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