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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #8

In the same timespan, firefox mobile has a share of 1.2%. Market dominance has almost nothing to do with technical merits.

But technical merits don't keep a company in business. Market dominance does.

I don't believe either of those are necessarily true. They would be if you changed "in business" to "growing".

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#152

I'd like to use Firefox. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, smoother browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly, too. On macOS, it feels chunkier and less natively integrated. Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the…

Safari is fine. The real problem is Chrome, which is just plain user-hostile.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#153
post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I'd support it if it felt like a first-class citizen on macOS. It's ironic that everyone decries Electron for not being native, then says you should use Firefox when it violates so much about the platform that it's not even funny. A bug about overflow scrolling (the default bouncing when you scroll over in macOS) has been open for years. It doesn't fit in.

There used to be a proper Mac fork of FF (Camino), maybe it’s time to revive that

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#154
post #142

Is there a way to see the raw numbers? Eyeballing last few months it seems that Chrome grew significantly mostly at the expense of internet explorer, but also other browsers. This trend could be explained by a large number of new chromium users. Or maybe Google figured out how to push Chrome better.

The absolute number of users seems to be declining as well, although I'm not sure why that is: https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity

Oh, interesting. 50 million to 40 million MAUs in the US since Mar 17, seems to match up.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#156
post #147

I'd like to use Firefox. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, smoother browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly, too. On macOS, it feels chunkier and less natively integrated. Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the…

> Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the time. Wikipedia is a major one. Start typing "Richard Fey", for example, and the first hit will be the Wikipedia page for Richard Feynman, complete with a short summary and photo. Firefox forces me through a Google search. I don't use a Mac, so I am not sure if there are other features of the Safari omnibar which ar…

Here's an album of examples showing some "magical" Safari suggestions:

https://imgur.com/a/dY2SWKB

Yes, I use also an extension that lets me type "w richard feynman". I also use DuckDuckGo, which has a lot of these shortcuts. But Safari will still offer the first "best hit", when I'm not sure where to look something up.

As for privacy, I'm already deep in Apple. They take care of my stuff: My entire Safari history (synced with iCloud), backup of my iPhone, my iMessage chat history, and a lot of other things. Given their stance on privacy, I choose to trust them. I've never accidentally pasted anything in the search bar.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#157
post #135

netmarketshare collect data from their slim clientele base. A few years they had to modify their data using weighting to get inline with other websites. Other sites have more accurate data which will reflect browser usage more accurately. I recommend using wikimedia's data. It's one of the biggest sites that open up their usage to the public: https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sit... If you sele…

There's also https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity showing similar declines in the US market.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#158
post #48
post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I would love to use Firefox more for dev, but until it has a first class way to disable CORS, I can't. "CORS Everywhere" is not sufficient (it alters responses, but does not actually disable CORS, which doesn't cover all needs). Chrome I can at least disable CORS via the command line, and Safari does it best by putting it in a Developer menu that I can easily toggle. Firefox's dev tools also seem to still be behind —…

Most folks set up a little proxy--or configure CORS if the other end of the pipe is owned or cooperative--rather than throw out the baby with the bathwater due to inability to disable an important security measure.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#159
post #16

Sad news. Firefox is my favorite browser, and I like their Dev tools the best. All the important stuff done in a browser should not be trusted to one that is closed source. (I know chromium is open source, but almost no one is using it). A good balance of browsers is important, I've already seen "you must use chrome to view this site."

User agent switcher will get you around that. It worked when Netflix was blocking FF and hasn't failed me yet.

The true spirit of Internet Explorer lives on, I guess.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#160
On our business news sites, Firefox is 5% of desktop traffic. Which isn't too crazy; lots of our readers probably can't install their own browsers. The crazy part is Chrome is at 65%. Chrome ate all the marketshare that IE/Edge lost in the enterprise over the past few years.
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