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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#81

Firefox is super fast and most importantly, isn't supported by a company who has a vested interest in tracking you. Unfortunate to see these results.

It is pretty fast for me.

Although there is some vested interest, although indirectly. Decisions are still tied to money, which is why Google has traditionally been the default search engine in Firefox.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#82
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I still use Firefox on my work computers and personal. The reason simply being that I feel the performance is better than chrome most times. I used Firefox / Mozilla for many years, then went to chrome when it was new and shiny, but I’m back to Firefox as I believe it truly is the better product. They just need to somehow market it better to people.

I have not shared the same experience, with Firefox often being much slower than Chromium. Especially on Linux.

AFAIK, Linux is a second-class target for Firefox. On Windows its quite snappy.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

I built a browser for this: https://cretz.github.io/doogie/. Granted I haven't uploaded the binaries for the current Chromium version (easy to do, just lazy) and I also don't support extensions and there's no macOS support yet. But the sheer productivity increase for me is substantial.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#84

Firefox is still slow on a very beefy Win10 PC and a MacBook Pro 2015, if you have more than 7-8 tabs open. I keep giving Firefox a chance but not much is changing. Not sure if the rewrite in Rust was worth it.

Firefox is only browser where multi-row tabs works -- all other browsers are impossible to navigate with more than 8 tabs open. I frequently have 30+ tabs open in Firefox (sometimes as much 100).

That being said, Firefox has a bunch of small performance / hang issues that have nothing to do with the number of tabs but add up over time.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

Lol, I usually organize tabs by location so pinning them (and minimizing their horizontal footprint) is good enough for me. Further, I personally found that when I had a million tabs open, at least 50% of them were duplicates so I just started using tab deduping extensions to cull them.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#86
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time. Why support what already broke your work once without an actual transition plan? They didn't have a full replacement ready to go when they got rid of XUL, and seemed that they didn't really care.

I'm pretty sure he meant web devs, not plugin devs.

Anyone who ignores prior treatment of folks is foolish.

Why would a web developer support one browser over others? They keep everyone honest by sticking to the middle road and not having a badge like "Works Best In FireFox".

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

I just deleted Chrome, and switched to Brave as my full-time personal browser: faster, more secure, and based on Chromium so full extension support[1]. I still use and support Firefox for development purposes, and am wedded to containers, but apart from that it's Brave all the way (especially on mobile, which has been my default browser for over a year now). [1] Excluding anything that bakes in Google spyware, and I…

Thanks for suggesting Brave. Just downloaded it, and it seems very well put together. Interesting how that plan to pay you to view ads.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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I'd like to use Firefox. I've tried it out several times the last year. It's okay. Unfortunately, I always end up going back to Safari. Despite the performance improvements, Safari still feels like a faster, smoother browser. Firefox is still pretty ugly, too. On macOS, it feels chunkier and less natively integrated. Safari's "omnibar" is superior to Firefox's. Safari actually suggests web sites, which I use all the…

I really want to use Safari, but for me the deal breaker is the fact that Safari doesn't seem to block pop-ups properly. Yes, they've changed it in the latest version. I have Block and Notify option selected in Privacy tab. But many popups still go through -- sometimes they open in a new tab, sometimes in a new window. Is there a way to fix that? Also, is there a Tree Style Tab alternative for Safari?

What websites are you getting these on?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt the engineers make the privacy decisions?

Since they write the software, I'm sure they have more than a little sway.

Damn I've been working wrong all this time! I didn't know because I write some of the code I get to make the product decisions!

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#90
Is there a way to see the raw numbers? Eyeballing last few months it seems that Chrome grew significantly mostly at the expense of internet explorer, but also other browsers.

This trend could be explained by a large number of new chromium users. Or maybe Google figured out how to push Chrome better.

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