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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by shittyadmin »

baby wrote: post #42
Puer wrote: post #10

Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

I'm not sure I understand, there is no side-tab plugin like Tree Style Tab plugin on Chrome. How do you handle more than 10 tabs?

I miss the old XUL extensions, way better tab extensions and stuff like DownThemAll was amazing.

Modernly Firefox can't be customized much more than chrome - extreme hacks are needed: https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/wiki/Code-snippets-fo...

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by craftyguy »

godelski wrote: post #47
nichos wrote: post #16

Sad news. Firefox is my favorite browser, and I like their Dev tools the best. All the important stuff done in a browser should not be trusted to one that is closed source. (I know chromium is open source, but almost no one is using it). A good balance of browsers is important, I've already seen "you must use chrome to view this site."

User agent switcher will get you around that. It worked when Netflix was blocking FF and hasn't failed me yet.

> User agent switcher will get you around that

I wonder how many FF users roll with a user agent that identifies as chrome or some other browser, and how much (if even significantly) it affects surveys like the one in this article.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by burtonator »

We just shipped a chrome extension for Polar...

I did a big analysis of the distribution of extensions on Firefox vs Chrome.

You could expect Firefox to be maybe 1/3rd that of Chrome.

Nope... it's 1/40th.... So 40x more people use the same extension on Chrome vs Firefox.

I'm not sure why this is... it might be that Chrome users adopt extensions more readily than Firefox users?

I think there's a lesson here on long term user growth but it's somewhat complicated.

Link to our chrome extension btw.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/save-to-polar/jkfd...

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by fireattack »

craftyguy wrote: post #43
Puer wrote: post #10

Just my personal $0.02: 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more u…

> 1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. You say this, but on mobile, the only major browser that supports extensions is Firefox. Not Chrome. Not Safari.

I'm a heavy Firefox+addon user, but I just don't use phone browser enough to even bother using addons. (And Firefox for Android is pretty bad otherwise, unfortunately.)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by larrik »

protomyth wrote: post #50
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time. Why support what already broke your work once without an actual transition plan? They didn't have a full replacement ready to go when they got rid of XUL, and seemed that they didn't really care.

I'm pretty sure he meant web devs, not plugin devs.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by shittyadmin »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #45
pdimitar wrote: post #22

Firefox is still slow on a very beefy Win10 PC and a MacBook Pro 2015, if you have more than 7-8 tabs open. I keep giving Firefox a chance but not much is changing. Not sure if the rewrite in Rust was worth it.

I had close to ~220 tabs open in 3 windows open on a windows machine that's not especially powerful and didn't have any performance issues. It wasn't even using that much memory...

Yeah, I'd say it performs better than Chrome at load times and extreme levels of tabs generally speaking.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by kevindqc »

ancorevard wrote: post #62

Why is it that not more people use Safari? On a MacBook Pro it is not only faster but your battery life lasts noticeable longer. Not to mention the Safari engineers' stand on privacy as compared to Google Chrome...

I doubt the engineers make the privacy decisions?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by saagarjha »

kristopolous wrote: post #3

Being visually nearly indistinguishable from chrome hasn't really worked in its favor. (quick, which is which: http://9ol.es/double-browser.png ). Probably north of 95% don't know about or understand licensing differences or differences in rendering engines or core architecture. Interfaces and obvious features with compelling narratives are what matter because that's how the user engages with the product. Asking user…

> Transforming itself to be visually nearly indistinguishable from chrome hasn't really worked in its favor.

Chrome changed its style more recently and ended up being more similar to Firefox.

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