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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#2
All of the other browsers have some other vector to push their browser. Safari, Edge and Chrome are all preinstalled on OSs and chrome is advertised on the biggest website in the world.

Even if firefox is slightly better than the rest it doesn't matter. Chrome only exists because IE was so bad people went out of their way not to use it.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#3
Being visually nearly indistinguishable from chrome hasn't really worked in its favor. (quick, which is which: http://9ol.es/double-browser.png). Probably north of 95% don't know about or understand licensing differences or differences in rendering engines or core architecture. Interfaces and obvious features with compelling narratives are what matter because that's how the user engages with the product.

Asking users to go out of their way to install and use something that looks and feels identical to what they already have for reasons most people don't know, understand, or deeply care about and do not get surfaced in any meaningful way is not a winning strategy. A case has to be made in the battle of perception and the decreasingly small visual differentiation hasn't helped build it.

Al Ries's laws of marketing and branding and Donald Norman's models of differentiation apply equally to all products regardless of the economic and institutional structure that builds them.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#4
I didn't see any indication as to their methodology for how they're calculating these stats. It's probably been said a zillion times before, but if it's JavaScript-based you can safely assume that they are incorrect as it's likely there is a large intersection between people browsing with an ad-blocker, private browsing, or with content blocker and those people using Firefox.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#5
I flip flop between Firefox and Chrome often. Lately I am on Firefox because I was trying to isolate a fatal crash I kept having on my brand new Macbook Pro (it would lock up completely, but cursor would still move and audio would still work and then it would inevitably shut itself off)

Since ditching Chrome the issue has not come up again ... but not sure if it's correlation or causation.

There are a few things I do not like about Firefox but the web inspect or is definitely miles ahead of Webkit.

Chrome is faster based on the butt-dyno: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butt-dyno

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

#10
Just my personal $0.02:

1. The biggest thing keeping me tied to Chrome over any other browser is the extension support. Extensions are second class citizens in any other browser. This is partly because other browsers keep overhauling their systems and deprecating old software which discourages extension developers, and mainly because (as an extension developer) why would you code for browser X when you can get more users on browser Y?

2. Anecdotal evidence, but every time an update of Firefox (and most notably Quantum) is released people laud how fast it is. On my 2015 Macbook running Mac OS Firefox has never been faster. Maybe there are things behind the scenes such as caching playing a role, but web pages load slower, scrolling feels sluggish, videos drop frames and freeze or get out of sync. It isn't an enjoyable experience compared to Chrome or Safari.

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