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C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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I believe that Tolkien is one of the folks he read Old Books with.

Probably, Tolkien and Lewis are often noted as being friends. Tolkien regularly gave friendly criticism of Lewis's frequent use of obvious allegory. The main character in the Out of the Silent Planet series is noted as being based on Tolkien.

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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I believe that Tolkien is one of the folks he read Old Books with.

They were part of the literature discussion group The Inklings, which met mostly on Tuesdays at The Eagle and Child pub in Oxford.

Tolkien is the one that convinced Lewis to leave atheism behind and become a Christian. Tolkien's poem "Mythopoeia" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia_(poem) - was instrumental in that process.

It's worthwhile to read it, but as a warning, it was written from one (highly educated) friend to another (highly educated friend), and it is not easy to understand what Tolkien is trying to say about the nature of reality without reading through it a few times: http://home.agh.edu.pl/~evermind/jrrtolkien/mythopoeia.htm

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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If we were to apply this idea to computer science or software engineering, where would we draw the line between old and new books?

Technological books do not age as well, because technical knowledge is predominantly cumulative. It's for fields where thoughts are evergreen (basically, anything to do with being human, literature, poetry, philosophy, etc) where this advice matters. A good modern book on math, or chemistry, or compiler construction has more knowledge than any old one. A good modern poet is not better than Shakespeare or Homer (and i…

> Technological books do not age as well, because technical knowledge is predominantly cumulative.

Tell that to Claude Shannon, Fred Brooks, and Ken Thompson. "A symbolic analysis of relay and switching circuits", "The Mythical Man-month" and "On Trusting Trust" have aged fine, I promise.

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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If we were to apply this idea to computer science or software engineering, where would we draw the line between old and new books?

I can think of a few different eras that will likely have different insights:

* Foundations, before any computer was feasible to build: Newton, Boole, Babbage

* Early computing, when everything was custom-built: Alan Turing, Vannevar Bush, Claude Shannon

* Mainframes, where computer access is rare and precious

* Personal computers and early networking

* Mobile computing and ubiquitous internet

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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If we were to apply this idea to computer science or software engineering, where would we draw the line between old and new books?

Technological books do not age as well, because technical knowledge is predominantly cumulative. It's for fields where thoughts are evergreen (basically, anything to do with being human, literature, poetry, philosophy, etc) where this advice matters. A good modern book on math, or chemistry, or compiler construction has more knowledge than any old one. A good modern poet is not better than Shakespeare or Homer (and i…

The best geometry textbook hasn't changed for more than 2000 years.

Mathematics textbooks are just as likely as anything else to suffer from modern pedagogical theories that have not been tested by time and will come to be regarded as mistakes.

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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I rather enjoyed this essay, not because I am into theology, but because I also see the value of old books. I think that I am a bit of a heretic (if I can use that word in a theology thread) because I strongly believe that there is advantage to be gained by reading old books of... science!

It is often presumed that because we learn new things as time goes on, and old theories are discarded as new information comes to light, that there is not much value in reading older science books. After all, isn't half of that stuff wrong? But similar to how Jack says how one can learn about different flavors of Christianity by stepping out of his own century, and thereby how much they have in common, I feel that by reading the original works of Millikan, Carnot, Gibbs, or Einstein, that you get a much better idea of the perspective that developed the theories we see as so cut-and-dried today.

Re: C.S. Lewis on the Reading of Old Books

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Time is a fantastic filter. When I was cleaning out my grandparents attic I found a few dozen old books from the 30s and 40s. Wanting to see if they had any value I searched Amazon Ebay and even Google.

I could find no record of them having ever even existed. I opened a few of them and found out why. They sucked.

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