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Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Someone make a Github repo so we can design this new protocol!

It does exist. It's not a new protocol, you can use (just about) anything that supports tcp. The domain names all end in ".onion"

For such purposes, Tor would be pretty inefficient. I suppose one could say that the inefficiency is a "feature" that makes the system self-limiting, curbing porn addiction. LOL

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Giving people suggestions based on their profiled interests was a nice toy idea, but it's very dangerous in the real world. I worry about that often with my kid online now.

You need to teach critical thinking skills. Not promote censorship. There's a lot of stupid things in the world you can't censor.

Not getting promoted by a recommendation algorithm is not censorship.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

Yeah but those are not adult content. They are undeniably very bad but tumblr is only banning porn.

This post is literally "cocaine and rock and roll" but they know they won't win the war on calling for bans on porn for their innocent child's eyes so they do this diatribe that is fully unrelated to banning adult content.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

It's not a gender thing. Young people in general are vulnerable to all kinds of negative groupthink because they don't have a fully formed identity, experience, or adult critical thinking skills. The nature of the toxic material seems to differ a bit by gender.

Loads of teen boys are sucked into toxic online cults too including neo-Naziism, extreme misogyny, other kinds of toxic political radicalism, gaming addiction, self-help cults, etc.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. I'm really sorry to hear this, having gone through a similar thing with a now ex-significant other. She too became very active in the segments of tumblr you identified and others (showed me many of them, some seemed like teenage angst in blog form, others were far more...worrisome), developed an eating disorder along with severe anxiety issues…

I think a lot of people over-estimate the resilience of the human emotional state, especially their own. Time and time again we see regular functioning adults get sucked into objectively insane or self-harmful communities, be it the above phenomenon or 4chan crap like QAnon.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long. I'm assumed Yahoo would have banned/purged adult content immediately after buying Tumblr.

I have this vague memory that they did, and then had to backtrack, but I could be thinking of another service.

No, I think you're right. I remember them announcing they would be banning it.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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You need to teach critical thinking skills. Not promote censorship. There's a lot of stupid things in the world you can't censor.

I do not for a second advocate censorship. No content should be barred from uploading, that should be a retroactive process always, otherwise free speech is impossible. Gotta make mistakes to learn from the correction, and that is especially true for young people unfamiliar with the law. What I am against is machines feeding you more of what you just looked at. That's dangerous. It's too easy to end up VERY deep down…

Sure arguing against the algos is fine. THAT should be under discussion, not censorship. Censorship is an easy out because every fucking person on this board profits off of algos that drive people insane and unhealthy but censorship is an easy out to avoid confronting the real problem.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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I figured the writing was on the wall with that whole garbage static page, along with "Disabled due to safe-mode". Of course, you had to have an account and all its bullshit to 'turn off' safe mode. Whereas, reddit, imgur, pornhub, and all of them have no safe-mode garbage. Reddit has a click-thru if you hit a sub on a work machine (and then you can bail out). But yeah, this is setting a "dead by" date probably 6 mon…

I still haven't figured out how this works, Tumblr smashes the page to 1/3 the screen and displays stuff I don't care about in the center 2/3.

It confuses me too. Is there a way to turn it off?

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I'm sad this has happened to your daughter, nevertheless I believe it's your own fault, not Tumblr's (well, someway maybe, the recommendation system could have been made less nasty, people interested in weird content should probably search for it themselves) and not of its users. Every thing should have its corner on the web and you just shouldn't go and let your kids go to those that are not for you. The fact tigers will probably kill whoever they meet doesn't mean there should be no places on Earth where they are not exterminated, just don't go there unprepared. Not every site on the web is to be sterile.

Also really dangerrous and really weird content like that you've described is not going to be affected by the new policy, all it bans are genitals and nipples which actually make nearly as much sense to hide as ears and fingers, people have imagined particular body parts are some kind worse than others and made this a part of the culture but it's not real and just seeing particular body parts can not actually harm a psyche of a healthy human in whatever an age (although I don't insist actual sexual acts can't).

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long. I'm assumed Yahoo would have banned/purged adult content immediately after buying Tumblr.

I have this vague memory that they did, and then had to backtrack, but I could be thinking of another service.

it wasn't a full on ban, but I do remember drama a year or two ago when Tumblr banned LGBTQ+ content from their safe search. This was also eventually backtracked.
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