Amazon's cloud business is competing with its own customers

Post by arbie » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 4:38 AM UTC

clubm8 wrote: post #123

cddotdotslash wrote: post #22

The trend I've noticed is that AWS makes a lot of very half-baked services that appear to compete with third-parties, but provide about 10% of the features and usability. Maybe they're hoping that's enough for the bulk of users (and maybe it is), but from what I've seen, if you want to do anything serious, you still have to use a third-party. Take CloudWatch for example. It's technically "competing" with Splunk, Data…

>Maybe they're hoping that's enough for the bulk of users (and maybe it is), but from what I've seen, if you want to do anything serious, you still have to use a third-party. Or is it that they hope people would rather get everything from 1 vendor even if it's sub par? I've noticed for example, that Prime Video and Music are inferior Netflix and Spotify. But I could see myself, if I wanted to tighten my belt, droppin…

Post by bitrrrate » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 4:56 AM UTC

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talawahdotnet wrote: post #67

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UI/UX is definitely not their strong suit and CloudWatch is one of the worst offenders. I really hope they aquire a company to deliver a completely revamped observability platform in the same vein as where Stackdriver is headed. They really seem to stuggle building things in house that have a great user experience. That being said, they excel at building things that are scalable, reliable and secure, and while you ma…

A big part of that was because until recently Frontend Engineers were second class citizens at Amazon. It became easier and easier to work for a year here then move to Facebook/Google and a variety of unicorns and get a huge pay raise. Whether or not that's enough remains to be seen.

Post by umichguy » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 5:24 AM UTC

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API gateway is one of the worst UI's i've ever used.

Being the worst is not as bad as people think. McDonalds has the worst burgers and Taco Bell the worst tacos, yet both massively successful operations.

Post by broknbottle » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 5:41 AM UTC

umichguy wrote: post #135

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Being the worst is not as bad as people think. McDonalds has the worst burgers and Taco Bell the worst tacos, yet both massively successful operations.

I doubt McDs has the worst burgers but I get your point. The pros of McDs, you go anywhere in the world, you can expect reasonable quality, the familiarity of the brand/ products at reasonable prices. They won't be the best or the worst but do the job.

Post by callumjones » Mon, Dec 03, 2018, 6:00 AM UTC

apotheosis wrote: post #119

cddotdotslash wrote: post #22

The trend I've noticed is that AWS makes a lot of very half-baked services that appear to compete with third-parties, but provide about 10% of the features and usability. Maybe they're hoping that's enough for the bulk of users (and maybe it is), but from what I've seen, if you want to do anything serious, you still have to use a third-party. Take CloudWatch for example. It's technically "competing" with Splunk, Data…

There's also EKS now, which is competing directly with ECS / Fargate I guess?