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There are similar policy changes being discussed and or implemented all over the world. In my opinion there should be a discriminatory reciprocal system based on the country you are from. Meaning a high income country like Norway should set up a reciprocal residency for work program with say Australia that would have more relaxed conditions than the general program. Similar to how visa free travel works. The economic…
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> Statiscally, immigration fraud through this route is uncommon. Citation needed.
Sure. Provide anecdotes for justifying your worldview but demand citations from others. That seems totally fair and not hypocritical at all. In any case, here you go: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unautho...
You then come back with an article titled "Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2014", when the discussion here is about students gaming legal immigration. What relevance does that have to the topic, again?
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Sure. Provide anecdotes for justifying your worldview but demand citations from others. That seems totally fair and not hypocritical at all. In any case, here you go: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Unautho...
I narrated my experience, cited two links, and you go "that doesn't make reality, statistics say...". So I ask for said stats. What is amusing about that? You then come back with an article titled "Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2014", when the discussion here is about students gaming legal immigration. What relevance does that have to the topic, again?
Its pretty clear that you've made up your mind about what the state of the world is (from various anecdata) and don't really care what the statistics really say. I will leave this as my last comment about this issue.
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Unless we implement a new visa for graduates of American universities we experience brain drain. We would be exporting American educated individuals to other countries rather than making use of them ourselves. It also doesn't account for the fact that H1B isn't just for engineers. Not all highly skilled professionals get paid salaries commensurate with the IT and CS industries. So now we also need to split it by job…
Salaries for other fields would rise due to the reduced supply of foreign labor. That is a good thing.
Some industries don't have the cash flow and ability to pay significantly higher like we have the luxury of in tech.
> The Department of Homeland Security wants to switch the order of these lotteries, it said in a notice of the proposed rule change, which would — somewhat counterintuitively — improve the odds for those highly educated workers > ... with a master’s or doctoral degree from an American college or university This is a welcome change. But this biases the playing field in favor of those graduating from American degree mi…
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Salaries for other fields would rise due to the reduced supply of foreign labor. That is a good thing.
Maybe. A lot of these already go unfilled today. Some industries don't have the cash flow and ability to pay significantly higher like we have the luxury of in tech.
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>No, his company was literally promised nothing by the government, everything was promised by Infosys or whatever staffing company they used. The government is offering a program to bring in the best and brightest to fulfill jobs that we can't otherwise fill. It needs to do a better job regulating that program, because it's clearly being abused. If it can't afford to regulate it or doesn't believe that regulation is…
>The government is offering a program to bring in the best and brightest to fulfill jobs that we can't otherwise fill. Show me where the H1B program or mandate says anything about the best and brightest. Perhaps you confused H1B with the O-1 visa program or the EB-1 priority green card employment category? >or doesn't believe that regulation is affordable or a good use of tax payer money, than the government should r…
I thought the whole intent was to bring in people to work jobs because we don't have talented people to fill those positions? Or has that definition shifted according to your perspective?
>The program isn't run from tax payer money, it pays for itself and then some.
It allows companies to flood the market with extra talent to keep wages suppressed while also holding leverage over folks who can either shut up or go back to Hyderabad. Someone is making money off of it, for sure. I don't think it's in the best interest of the job market and specifically earners, and you haven't convinced anyone that it is.
>Just the fees can cost $4000 to $5000.
Is $5,000 that much money to you? I would argue the cost of H1B's are much higher, especially when you consider the number of folks coming in who are unqualified and simply holding a job so a bunch of middle men can take a cut of their pay, not to mention the extra paperwork and headache it causes someone like me because I can gamble on an H1B contractor through Infosys or Larsen and Toubro or find an alternative means to fill head count.
>Sorry, but it is clear from our conversation that you don't have the first clue about anything related to this topic. I won't be replying anymore until you try and bring yourself up to speed on what you're ranting and raving about based on one off anecdotal bad experience.
My experience is with all the people previously in multiple non-tech companies and then two of FANGs, including my current one.
>I won't be replying anymore until you try and bring yourself up to speed on what you're ranting and raving about based on one off anecdotal bad experience.
Your responses get more and more emotional, which (I could be wrong) makes me think you're an H1B yourself or have an inherent bias towards H1B's because of family or other connections.
FYI - Showcasing your frustration that we don't believe you at your word and throwing a hissy fit doesn't convince anyone you're correct. If that's your method of convincing people of your ideas, you won't get very far and if you do, the people you work with will jump ship because of you.
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Maybe. A lot of these already go unfilled today. Some industries don't have the cash flow and ability to pay significantly higher like we have the luxury of in tech.
So these industries have unfilled positions but are unable to charge enough to get the cash flow to pay more and fill these positions? That sounds like these industries perhaps aren't all that vital.
Even in for-profit industries, margins are not always high enough and competition is often fierce enough that they cannot afford to raise prices to raise salaries.
There are a lot of important industries where margins are quite slim.
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Xenophobia is a powerful drug. Good luck working in one of those many tech companies who wouldn't exist if it weren't for immigrants who started them.
You're putting words in my mouth and not understanding my argument. The irony of your comment is that H-1Bs literally can't start companies here because if they quit the job sponsoring their visa they'll be deported. I'm completely happy for people to immigrate here, but H-1B doesn't help them do that, and instead lets corporations exploit them. H-1B is bad for immigrants because it puts them at the mercy of big corp…
So while yes, you cannot start a company on an H-1B, it is for many people a pre-requisite to become a green card holder (and thus being able to start one).
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The problem with the merit based visa system is it locks out highly talented self-taught individuals without college degrees. There's a lot of them in tech. Even though they have tons of experience in their respected fields the 'merit' systems are weighed heavily on education.
Well this is immigration we are talking about. Generally people without college degrees don't even get a H1 visa to come and work in the US. So its not really a problem with the merit based system. Infact a merit based system which does not require college degree and simply provides some points is better suited to such individuals as they could get high score in other factors.