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Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #135

There's a subtle-but-sneaky way to play this game. Put in a patent application. Abandon it. Congratulations, your patent is now going to come up in any competent patent examiner's initial search as "potential prior art". Patent the core technology (the "you have to do it this way" stuff), but salt the earth around it so nobody can get a patent on the sub-optimal alternatives. Also leave subtle but important details o…

What you describe is the standard in some industries. If a research team discovers something new, lawyers will make a patent out of it that is broad / vague enough to prevent any further research in that area by competitors. At the same time they look at the patents of competitors and if they are too specific they try to patent similar ideas.

> If a research team discovers something new, lawyers will make a patent out of it that is broad / vague enough to prevent any further research in that area by competitors.

Not quite right. If an inventor creates something marginally useful at a large company, there's no question that their lawyers will try to patent it. But the purpose is not to prevent research in the area, in fact the opposite. Once a company has a patent on something, they'd likely encourage further research, knowing that they have a financial interest in the research going to market.

All big companies do this, and once the research matures enough to become a product, all the companies have modest claim to it, but they all have an interest to bringing it to market. In some cases, these companies fight who gets what in court (e.g., CRISPR), but in others, they come together and agree on a royalty scheme roughly proportional to their contributions (e.g., MPEG, H.264).

The point is, no company patents something to stop research on that thing, it's quite the opposite.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #133

Regina Dugan is a former head of DARPA as well as ATAP. She has an impressive resume. Why would she do something like this? For a not particularly important patent, LED popup books? It seems bizarre. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_E._Dugan

People don't get to the top by being ethical. They get to the top of the org chart by playing politics. Many of them are practically psychopaths.

The good news is that very few people are at the top. Most are in the middle, and it's entirely possible to be ethical and in a good middling position.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #15

Leah Buechley is the PhD advisor, Regina Dugan is Google ATAP, Joi Ito is Media Lab but... who is the first person speaker of the text? Am I missing something obvious or is it really omitted? Edit: possibly (probably?) https://twitter.com/qijie

You’re not missing something obvious, like a byline. But the article does contain a screenshot of an email she says she sent to Google, with her name in the From field: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5af0d38a5417fc945678f...

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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> More importantly, sharing work publicly keeps the project can alive and inspires others to continue developing! Which a patent does too, just with a license or 20 years later. It keeps people from reinventing the wheel and gives the disclosure rights even if they didn't have the infrastructure to create or monetize on their own. This isn't one of those nefarious software patents where the whole thing would be obsol…

> It keeps people from reinventing the wheel

Actually it forces people to reinvent the wheel in possibly worse ways.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #68
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the author is a she.

True, but I didn't see that she identified herself, or her gender, in the article. So what's a commenter to do? That's an honest question. Mangle to use "they"? Use some genderless pronoun that'll piss off x% of readers?

1. Use “they”

2. Take the time to use a search engine to look up her name, which is referenced at least two times in screenshots of emails she provides.

3. Click-through to the blog post she links, also written by herself: https://patentpandas.org/stories/crowdfunding-backer-patente...

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but I didn't see that she identified herself, or her gender, in the article. So what's a commenter to do? That's an honest question. Mangle to use "they"? Use some genderless pronoun that'll piss off x% of readers?

> True, but I didn't see that she identified herself, or her gender, in the article. So what's a commenter to do? Simple. 1. Assume an ostensibly correct pronoun of your own choice (like you did) 2. If someone corrects you, optionally acknowledge the correction and apologize if applicable, then use the correct pronoun henceforth 3. Ignore the overly gender-obsessed people who tell you that you should have used ugly o…

It’s ironic to argue that an author’s identity doesn’t really matter, in which an author describes an eregious attempt by a company to steal credit for her work.

Re: Google Tried to Patent My Work After a Job Interview

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Software patents need to be banned.

In the interim, employee incentives (ego, bonuses) to being listed as an "inventor" while BigCompany remains the "assignee" could be ameliorated with a "Software Patent Hall of Shame" (SPHS), which would list software engineers complicit in software patents.

This would disincentivize software engineers from stealing ideas, from allowing their work to be patented, or from signing agreements which would force them to do so, since doing so would undermine their prospects with future employers, who believe in free and open software and unencumbered computer science research.

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