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Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by askafriend »

mc32 wrote: post #2

>told subordinates to examine why Mr. Soros had criticized the tech companies and whether he stood to gain financially from the attacks. Well, he is an investor who has a history of causing financial damage to whole countries by betting against their currencies. So, it shouldn't be surprising FB would want to know what might be in store for them if he went nuclear on them. What is surprising is the odd bedfellows of…

If someone is publicly saying questionable things about your organization, then trying to find out what their motivations might be by doing research is just common sense (especially if the company in question is publicly traded). So I'm with you there, I don't get the outrage here at all. It comes off as cheap and manufactured from what I'm seeing.

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Post by vtesucks »

jsonne wrote: post #9
vtesucks wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because the establishment segment (clinton) genuinely fear him throwing his hat in for 2020. Not that I like him but honestly, if he can sells fb stock and promises to genuinely treat Usa like his firm, I'd prefer him over a politician who says what pays (which is all politicians in all sides).

This was actually a major selling point for Trump during the election until it wasn't.

Trump's promises may not fit well with half the people but he has done all he promised. See list below.

Lets see zuck try that - I think he will succeed too at least better than the "charming" presidents of the recent past on either side

TPP cancelled

Prison reform

NAFTA renegotiated (this is something that is nit clear how well he did)

China trade war (which by bloombergs account he has an upper hand in)

North Korea peace

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by Jtsummers »

vtesucks wrote: post #7
swampthinker wrote: post #4

Facebook is turning an awful lot of Democrats into enemies. Very curious to see how Zuckerberg tries to maneuver Facebook through wartime. [1] [1] https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceowartime-ceo-2/

It's because the establishment segment (clinton) genuinely fear him throwing his hat in for 2020. Not that I like him but honestly, if he can sells fb stock and promises to genuinely treat Usa like his firm, I'd prefer him over a politician who says what pays (which is all politicians in all sides).

Is Facebook actually well run? Or just fortunate in its timing in the market?

It’s a spectrum, right? Skill and luck. How much of each has contributed to its success?

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Post by writepub »

The article seems to imply Sandberg approved of anti semetic attacks against Soros, conveniently ignoring the fact that Sandberg (& Zuckerberg) is a Jew herself.

I don't know what the editorial team at NYT thinks is happening, but I don't think Sandberg would condone anti semetic attacks against anyone, even rivals.

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Post by 40acres »

Not surprising but definitely adds to the icky feeling surrounding Sandberg and Zuckerberg. Interestingly enough I think Scott Galloway makes some great points, Sandberg is probably the most powerful woman in tech right now, it's probably a bad look for the board to let her go; and I doubt Zuck would force her out. I think she'll leave on her own terms.

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Post by jshorty »

vtesucks wrote: post #7
swampthinker wrote: post #4

Facebook is turning an awful lot of Democrats into enemies. Very curious to see how Zuckerberg tries to maneuver Facebook through wartime. [1] [1] https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceowartime-ceo-2/

It's because the establishment segment (clinton) genuinely fear him throwing his hat in for 2020. Not that I like him but honestly, if he can sells fb stock and promises to genuinely treat Usa like his firm, I'd prefer him over a politician who says what pays (which is all politicians in all sides).

I disagree, I don't think they fear that. I'm not sure why Zuckerberg was ever really floated as a potential candidate. He's not particularly charismatic and fails the "beer test" with basically everybody in America, and would likely have a harder time connecting with the voting masses than Hillary Clinton. With his lack of experience added to that, and no real ability to run as an 'outsider' as a billionaire tech elite, I think he'd flame out in a primary contest quickly.

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Post by vtesucks »

Jtsummers wrote: post #13
vtesucks wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because the establishment segment (clinton) genuinely fear him throwing his hat in for 2020. Not that I like him but honestly, if he can sells fb stock and promises to genuinely treat Usa like his firm, I'd prefer him over a politician who says what pays (which is all politicians in all sides).

Is Facebook actually well run? Or just fortunate in its timing in the market? It’s a spectrum, right? Skill and luck. How much of each has contributed to its success?

Good point but were a lot of players in market then and a lot of wannabes now

Re: Sheryl Sandberg Is Said to Have Asked Facebook Staff to Research George Soros

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Post by askafriend »

docbrown wrote: post #3

This may be an unpopular opinion but here it is: Zuckerburg started this as a hobby with it being something he may never have thought of becoming full-scale. Fast forward to today and Zuckerburg is in over his head. He has control over this !massive! amount of data that companies are chomping at the bit for. He’s trying to make sure his company survives and his product does no harm. But, he’s losing control. They’re…

Your comment is quite far off from reality.

To address your first point: he started the company deliberately. He had sold a successful company before Facebook. He also turned down multi-billion dollar acquisition offers because he knew exactly what he was doing and what the opportunity was. Many of the funding rounds for FB were red hot and everyone was trying to get in.

And to your second point: what he built is unprecedented. And because it is unprecedented, there are a lot of questions that we as a society need to answer collectively about the role a product like Facebook plays in our lives (kinda just like with every other new, transformational technology, including email). But to call his execution "In over his head" is laughable. I don't think other leaders would have fared any better and many could have fared much, much worse.

Now, are there questions and valid criticisms about his execution today or his handling of the recent controversies? Of course! Does that mean he's a random guy with a side-project that accidentally blew up and suddenly he's in over his head? Absolutely not, your comment is more fantasy than reality.

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Post by [deleted] »

docbrown wrote: post #3

This may be an unpopular opinion but here it is: Zuckerburg started this as a hobby with it being something he may never have thought of becoming full-scale. Fast forward to today and Zuckerburg is in over his head. He has control over this !massive! amount of data that companies are chomping at the bit for. He’s trying to make sure his company survives and his product does no harm. But, he’s losing control. They’re…

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