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Re: Learn React for free

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There seems to be a culture of collecting Udemy courses among fledgeling web developers.

Young web developers certainly seem to love video courses for some reason. Maybe I'm just old and crotchety, (well, one of those is certainly true), but I would much rather get my fix textually and go along at my own pace. Flipping pages or scrolling is still superior to trying to scrub through a video timeline.

>Flipping pages or scrolling is still superior to trying to scrub through a video timeline.

Well, that's a different use case.

Videos are good for exact instructionals, because of this, they are quite good for getting to the bare metal quickly and getting a quick - albeit incomplete - understanding of the technology.

Following a tutorial online on a webpage is a bit different as it's not a follow along, (you don't get told exactly what to click and "see" someone doing it) so it requires a bit more parsing and effort on your part. (Which can often be better for learning, but not always).

Generally my workflow for learning a new tech is starting with a good instructional video (like udemy) for the basic grounding, then move onto the technical documentation to develop an actual well grounded understanding.

Videos have their downsides, (you can get through an entire video series and not actually know how to self-guide) but they are much better in my opinion at lowering the barrier of entry.

Text is much better for someone wanting to learn specific things, or connecting concepts together, and/or reference documentation, searching for concepts.. etc.

The other point that I'm unsure if it is just me or all people, but I've started loving udemy videos because I can follow along with it a lot easier when I have tired eyes and worn out brain after a full day of work. I often struggle to teach myself a new technology when I'm completely worn out from my job.

Re: Learn React for free

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We've actually got a new `redux-starter-kit` package which includes some reducer utilities similar to `redux-actions`, but using the Immer library internally. That allows you to write simpler immutable updates that look like "mutation". There's also some helpers for common use cases like simplifying store setup, and generating entire "slices" of state at once (including generating action creators and action types aut…

createSlice is an interesting approach, though it feels like it's missing the use case of being able to set multiple keys in the same reducer from one action, as with my valueAB example above. It might be worth putting some thought into how to make a variant of it that can produce multiple reducers (one per key to be affected), not just one.

Yeah, we had one user file an issue with some suggested improvements:

https://github.com/reduxjs/redux-starter-kit/issues/41

Haven't had time to dig into this further, though.

Think you could leave a comment there with your suggestions and that example?

Re: Learn React for free

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Sometimes it's easier to brush off a question, or make a statement in a learning context than get tied up in nuances. Do you really want to learn react with a 4-hour video on framework comparisons in the middle before you've learned the one you're looking at?

I'm just saying that there are more valid selling points for React than speed.

It's a valid point - if I were concerned that Jr. developers would parrot every line from the course to the ridicule of very particular Sr. developers I would have specified that the Virtual DOM makes React faster than if it were trying to directly use the actual DOM, all else being equal.

But since that wasn't a concern of mine when I made that video (it is far from the main takeaway of the course), I kept it as simple as it needed to be to get the point across.

Re: Learn React for free

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How does this compare to, say, Wes Bos's course?

It's created with the Scrimba technology, so you can edit the code in the videos whenever you want.

I find this ^^ to be one of the main selling points. All online courses are in danger of falling into the "Tutorial Hell" category, where they spend all their time teaching you without the student actually being more capable afterword. The Scrimba platform significantly lowers the barrier for students to get their hands on the code and actually obtain new skills. I have yet to find another platform that lowers that barrier as efficiently/well as Scrimba.

Re: Learn React for free

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Am I the only one who thinks that courses that don't teach TDD from the start are useless? How can you write an app and not programmatically prove it is working as expected?

Re: Learn React for free

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There seems to be a culture of collecting Udemy courses among fledgeling web developers.

Do people actually put that kind of stuff on resumes? I've done a good handful of MOOC courses (usually not all the way through to be fair), but I can't imagine actually paying for a certificate so I can put it on my resume. If I want to show that I know React I'd rather just build something with it, throw it on github, and list it as a side-project.

I don't think Udemy has any kind of completion certificates, and I can't imagine would put "Watched video about X" on their resume.

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There seems to be a culture of collecting Udemy courses among fledgeling web developers.

Young web developers certainly seem to love video courses for some reason. Maybe I'm just old and crotchety, (well, one of those is certainly true), but I would much rather get my fix textually and go along at my own pace. Flipping pages or scrolling is still superior to trying to scrub through a video timeline.

Videos are good for me to get a conceptual overview, when I actually start on a project, I’ll read docs and a getting started guide. I can watch a video while I’m working out in front of my TV. There are AppleTV apps for Udemy, Pluralsight, etc.

Re: Learn React for free

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Am I the only one who thinks that courses that don't teach TDD from the start are useless? How can you write an app and not programmatically prove it is working as expected?

I've been wondering about that: A course that starts with TDD and builds the program/app from that, iterating on both sides.

I'm interested in TDD but didn't find a course/guide that would teach how to do it properly... Maybe I didn't search enough...

Can you recommend me anything like that? It doesn't have to be React related.

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