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U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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If you think it's bad now, wait until the last "A Song of Ice and Fire" book comes out. Life expectancy will plummet as people discover they have literally nothing to live for anymore.

That's not how life expectancy works.

That's not how books work either, actually.

Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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post #4
post #2

If you think it's bad now, wait until the last "A Song of Ice and Fire" book comes out. Life expectancy will plummet as people discover they have literally nothing to live for anymore.

That's not how life expectancy works. That's not how books work either, actually.

His comment is silly, but if enough people did kill themselves after the book came out then it could affect life expectancy.

Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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post #4
post #2

If you think it's bad now, wait until the last "A Song of Ice and Fire" book comes out. Life expectancy will plummet as people discover they have literally nothing to live for anymore.

That's not how life expectancy works. That's not how books work either, actually.

I guess that was supposed to be a joke as many expect no more books (of the series) are to be published

Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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post #4
post #2

If you think it's bad now, wait until the last "A Song of Ice and Fire" book comes out. Life expectancy will plummet as people discover they have literally nothing to live for anymore.

That's not how life expectancy works. That's not how books work either, actually.

> That's not how life expectancy works.

Well, actually, the linked article highlighted an increase in suicides as a factor in the declining life expectancy.

Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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I think we've reached the point of diminishing marginal returns to health care spending. That means when we spend more money on healthcare as a percent of GDP, life expectancy starts to fall. We are already at 16% of GDP spent on healthcare. That's double the amount that any other country spends on healthcare. We also have worse life expectancy vs. countries that spend much less as a percent of GDP than we do.

One of the most disturbing trends in American healthcare, IMHO, is that the suicide rate has been steadily rising since 2000. It's now back to where it was in the 1980s before SSRIs.

Re: U.S. Life Expectancy Falls Further

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The decline is mostly the product of an increase in drug overdose deaths and suicides (likely also related to drug abuse[1]). Cancer mortality is continuing to decline which is nice to hear:

"Earlier this century, the steady and robust decline in heart-disease deaths more than offset the rising number from drugs and suicide, Dr. Anderson said. Now, “those declines aren’t there anymore,” he said, and the drug and suicide deaths account for many years of life lost because they occur mostly in young to middle-aged adults.

While progress against deaths from heart disease has stalled, cancer deaths—the nation’s No. 2 killer—are continuing a steady decline that began in the 1990s, Dr. Anderson said. “That’s kind of our saving grace,” he said. “Without those declines, we’d see a much bigger drop in life expectancy.”

Drug-overdose deaths skyrocketed between 2015 and 2017, particularly for adults between ages 25 and 54. The main culprit was fentanyl and other synthetic opioids that became pervasive in illicit drug supplies in the U.S. around that time.

Deaths from synthetic opioids rose 45% in 2017, while the death rate from heroin, which had risen sharply after 2010, was flat."

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4499285/

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